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Re: Web Design: Would you design a PDF by writing Postscript in Notepad?

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From: Steve Hix
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:44
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In article <160220071959359480%helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com>,
 Helpful Harry <helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com> wrote:

> In article <sehix-6AE1F8.22344015022007@news.speakeasy.net>, Steve Hix
> <sehix@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:
> 
> > In article <0001HW.C1FA848300010DEBB022094F@news.supernews.com>,
> >  TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@mac.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:19:54 -0600, Steve Hix wrote
> > > (in article <sehix-E08511.19195415022007@news.speakeasy.net>):
> > > 
> > > > In article <1171555825.536750.285310@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>,
> > > >  "fgdg" <ilovesanta@lycos.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >> Why do we put up with web design software? Nobody makes a PDFs by
> > > >> writing Postscript in Notepad, but that is what designer's working for
> > > >> the web are expected to do. That is how far web design has come.
> > > >> Postscript is a page description language like HTML
> > > > 
> > > > HTML is *not* a page description language.
> > > 
> > > Are we perhaps getting into "micro-semantics" as from Wikipedia we 
> > > find.....
> > > 
> > > HTML, short for HyperText Markup Language, is the predominant markup
> > > language 
> > > for the creation of web pages.
> > 
> > "markup language" is not the same as "page description language".
> > 
> > HTML markup doesn't specify *how* information is to be displayed, but 
> > the relationships between information components.
> 
> Since when is [strong] a "relationship between information
> components"?!?!? It's telling the browser that the following text
> shoulld be rendered in bold until it finds a corresponding [/strong]
> tag.

No, it's telling it to display as strong; strong may be displayed in 
ways other than just bolding it.
 
> HTML code simply tells a browser how to render a page on-screen.
> Postscript tells a printer (usually) how to render a page to print to
> paper.

Well, html gives strong hints, maybe. But anyone's reader may be set up 
to do just about anything imaginable, making the writer's intent non 
much more than a mild suggestion. Unlike PS or PDF.
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