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Article #1417Re: Word Dictionary Wrong?!?!?
From: Connie Cho
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 14:54
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 14:54
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In article <12392@umd5.umd.edu> amunn@macbeth.umd.edu (Alan Munn) writes: >In article <167C0773A.GILMART@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> GILMART@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes: >>>In article <1992Apr3.154246.21468@ee.rochester.edu> wengler@ee.rochester.edu (Mikey) writes: >>>|I'm getting no error on the word 'dependant' >>> >>>I won't claim there aren't cases where the Word dictionaries are wrong, >>>but this isn't one of them. > >[various people have kindly or not so told poor Mikey that you can >spell 'dependent' any way you like, so Word is right] > >>Now that the original poster has been suitably humiliated, I'd like to take >>his side a little further. While either "dependent" or "dependant" may be >>acceptable according to a sufficiently comprehensive dictionary, it's poor >>style to use both in the same document. I know, I said "style", not >>"spelling", but it would surely be a desirable feature of a spelling checker >>to note use of a secondary spelling, and ask me which alternative I wish to >>use for the rest of the document. > >I think this should soon move to alt.english.usage, but here goes >anyway. Spell checkers are only that -- spell checkers. The don't >parse your text to see what you really meant or anything like that. >Given this, the fewer word the better, since if you have more esoteric >words in the dictionary you have more likelyhood of a match between an >esoteric word and a badly spelled mundane word. This is the gist of >your argument, I take it. > >However, we have a problem. As far as I know (after consulting one >dictionary) 'dependent' and 'dependant' are not alternative spellings >of the same word (i.e. not just a style difference). Rather, >'dependant' is a Noun (alternatively spelt 'dependent'), while >'dependent' is an adjective (with no alternative spelling). The >primary spelling of the Noun is with an 'a' while the only spelling of >the adjective is with an 'e'. Since the spell checker can't tell >adjectives from nouns, surely you would want both in there and hope >for the best. > >'the' is a *terrible* spelling of 'then' (and vice versa) but >spellcheckers can never catch that mistake, which, although a little >more extreme, is really of the same ilk. > >>Likewise, it would be useful if the user dictionary could suppress entries >>in the main dictionary which are prohibited by local styles. For example, >>a friend doing her dissertation lately faced a departmental rule that all >>French words should appear with correct accents. Word dictionary contains >>many common French terms (e.g. "siecle") without accents, and there's no >>way we can overrule Word and say we prefer not to tolerate "dependant" or >>unaccented "siecle". > >This is true, and it might be nice. Perhaps what really is needed is >a real dictionary editor, so that we can create our own dictionarys >fairly easily. Don't tell me Nisis has one... :-) > > >Alan Munn Ah, now what you are looking at is no longer the spelling checker, but is the grammar checker. I don't use Word anymore, and haven't seen Word 5, but I suppose I should ask whether Word 5's grammar checker can catch the 'dependent' vs. 'dependant' uses. BTW, the speller does catch 'independant', doesn't it? CKC
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!bonnie.concordia.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!umcho000 From: umcho000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Connie Cho) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Word Dictionary Wrong?!?!? Message-ID: <1992Apr8.145417.2159@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Date: 8 Apr 92 14:54:17 GMT References: <874@6sceng.UUCP> <167C0773A.GILMART@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> <12392@umd5.umd.edu> Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Lines: 64