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Article #1763Re: Claris bashing (and a bit of DeltaPoint bashing)(was: Misc Bashing)
From: roy
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:38
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:38
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In article <1992Apr13.001051.2834@athena.mit.edu> dks@athena.mit.edu (dks) writes: > In article <1992Apr12.203519.16037@m.cs.uiuc.edu> coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu writes: > <<Random Bashing deleted> > We're talking about a wholly owned Apple subsidiary here. If I can read > Tech Notes, so bloody well can they. Not to mention the little detail > that System 7 itself was slightly late so that there ought to have been > ample time to put in all the features and bugs we were expecting. Besides, > if Claris doesn't showcase OS7 features, who do you think will? > > > Dhanesh We're also talking Tech Notes, not Ten Commandments (e.g. not written in stone). There are still System 7.0 features that are not 'per spec' as they were discussed at that fateful WWDC in 1989. Many of the original 'features' were postponed until Pink. You probably would not have wanted to wait for MacDraw Pro to perfect the use of Line Layout Manager, since it was dropped until 7.1 or so. The fact that 7.0 was late did not give us registered developers 'more time', it actually just kept us guessing a little longer if Apple had removed a parameter from an AppleEvent rountine, or some other such non-sense, so that our products would break the INSTANT 7.0 shipped. ;) Believe it or not, there is not a direct mind link between Apple system software engineers and Claris developers. Apple is a large corporation, with many different R&D departments. Communication breaks down. As a Claris veteran (empl #173), I can say that there was NO special treatment, when Claris was a separate (??) company. We were treated as fourth-class developers. I had friends, with their OWN companies, who were getting seed machines / system software MONTHS before Claris did. Just $.02 from someone who has done time in the big house. er. big wedge? -- Roy Lovejoy | internet: roy@adeptsln.cts.com Head RGB Guy | AppleLink: adept Adept Solutions | CIS: 72447,1447 .................| dual certified developer: NeXT & Apple ;)
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!crash!adeptsln!roy From: roy@adeptsln.cts.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Claris bashing (and a bit of DeltaPoint bashing)(was: Misc Bashing) Message-ID: <1992Apr16.073805.2335@adeptsln.cts.com> Date: 16 Apr 92 07:38:05 GMT Article-I.D.: adeptsln.1992Apr16.073805.2335 References: <1992Apr13.001051.2834@athena.mit.edu> Sender: roy@adeptsln.cts.com Reply-To: roy@adeptsln.cts.com Organization: Adept Solutions Lines: 39