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Re: Prograph v.2.5: Is it any good?

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From: Nick B Triantos
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:10
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In article <17q357INN194@cs.utexas.edu> javier@cs.utexas.edu (Javier H. Seen) writes:

     For those who are knowledgeable of Prograph v2.5 (i.e., purchased
     and/or  experimented  with the package), I'd like to ask you what
     you think of it.  In particular,

       * Does it have a steeper learning curve than conventional Mac
	 application programming (say, using THINK C v5.0.2)?

Well, that will depend upon you (I hate to sound so evasive), because although
Prograph seems to be a very nicely designed development system, getting used to
programming in such a "non-traditional" manner (drawing boxes, and linking them
with lines), seems difficult for some experienced programmers, myself included.

       * Are the OO capabilities well designed?  Is graphical programming
	 of this genre faster and better than other well-established
	 CASE tools?  (Is Oracle a good comparison?)

Haven't used Oracle..Can't touch this directly, but the OO paradigm seems to be
very well implemented, comparitively.

       * Since both Prograph and THINK C are  sold  at  a  low  market
	 price of approx. $199.00 (though I'm sure THINK  C  can  be  
	 purchased at lower
	 educational prices, but I need to check that out), which one
	 would you suggest me to use in order to actually learn Mac
	 application programming?  Let's say that my intentions are
	 geared toward industry requisites (for instance, I've worked
	 with X11R4, so that falls within "industry-based" application 
	 production software).

I too come from experience in X11R4, and so THINK C seems to be the easiest for
me to adapt to.  The whole structure of X11 programs and Mac programs are, in
general, the same, but the exact toolbox calls and their parameters are simply
different.  Event loops, menus, and so on are conceptually the same on both
platforms.  And by the way, I paid $125 for THINK C by calling Symantec and
getting the name of the educational distributor.

     I appreciate your advices beforehand.

Oh, and one last note...Call TGS Systems (sorry, I don't have their # anymore),
and ask them to mail you the demo.  It's an interactive Hypercard stack that
will really let you see what Prograph is all about.  They were very helpful to
me.

Good luck.  I hope all this helps!

-Nick


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