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Article #2331Re: ** PROGRAPH 2.5: Is it any good? **
From: Jeff Sullivan
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 18:21
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 18:21
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In article <17rf9qINN1na@gorath.cs.utexas.edu> javier@cs.utexas.edu (Javier H. Seen) writes: >For those who are knowledgeable of Prograph v2.5 (i.e., purchased >and/or experimented with the package), I'd like to ask you what >you think of it. In particular, I wrote a review of PG 2.5 for Computer Shopper as part of the Visual OOP series. It was in the July issue. > * Does it have a steeper learning curve than conventional Mac > application programming (say, using THINK C v5.0.2)? Depends on whther you already know C or not. If you've had a ton of experience with C, then obviously learning a C environment on the Mac is easier than learning a non-C environment. However, if you're starting from scratch (which it doesn't seem that you are), then Prograph's curve is no steepr than any other language. But if you're comparign learning a new, different programming paradigm with learning the foibles of a language you already know on a new system, then,. yes, Prograph's curve is steeper and longer. > * Does the package offer what the TGS Systems guys promise in > their specs. (OO features, excellent programming environment, > support for integrated C and Pascal libraries, good interface > builder and editor/interpreter, an integrated database engine, > debugger, SQL connectivity support, etc.)? Yes. SOme of the requires add-on modules though (C and SQL connectivity, for instance). I must say that the environment in my opinion, is about the best I'`ve ever used in terms of seamless integration. Extremely well designed. > * Since both Prograph and THINK C are sold at a low market > price of approx. $199.00 (though I'm sure THINK C can be > purchased at lower > educational prices, but I need to check that out), which one > would you suggest me to use in order to actually learn Mac > application programming? Let's say that my intentions are > geared toward industry requisites (for instance, I've worked > with X11R4, so that falls within "industry-based" application > production software). I'm not sure I'd consider X11R4 to be "industry-based," but if you're saying "which of these will get me more jobs?", I'd have to say that C is a lot more widespread than prograph in terms of its current usage. A LOT more widespread. jas -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey A. Sullivan | Research Scientist et al. jas@isi.edu (Internet) | Information Sciences Institute 72511,402 (Compuserve) | University of Southern California
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!usc!isi.edu!venera.isi.edu!jas From: jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.programming Subject: Re: ** PROGRAPH 2.5: Is it any good? ** Message-ID: <22305@venera.isi.edu> Date: 1 Sep 92 18:21:27 GMT References: <17rf9qINN1na@gorath.cs.utexas.edu> Sender: news@isi.edu Distribution: world Organization: USC-ISI Lines: 59 In-reply-to: javier@cs.utexas.edu's message of 30 Aug 92 21:41:26 GMT