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Re: ** PROGRAPH 2.5: Is it any good? **

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From: Jeff Sullivan
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 18:21
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In article <17rf9qINN1na@gorath.cs.utexas.edu> javier@cs.utexas.edu (Javier H. Seen) writes:

>For those who are knowledgeable of Prograph v2.5 (i.e., purchased
>and/or  experimented  with the package), I'd like to ask you what
>you think of it.  In particular,

I wrote a review of PG 2.5 for Computer Shopper as part of the Visual
OOP series.  It was in the July issue.

>  * Does it have a steeper learning curve than conventional Mac
>    application programming (say, using THINK C v5.0.2)?

Depends on whther you already know C or not.

If you've had a ton of experience with C, then obviously learning a C
environment on the Mac is easier than learning a non-C environment.

However, if you're starting from scratch (which it doesn't seem that
you are), then Prograph's curve is no steepr than any other language.

But if you're comparign learning a new, different programming paradigm
with learning the foibles of a language you already know on a new
system, then,. yes, Prograph's curve is steeper and longer.

>  * Does the package offer what the TGS Systems guys promise in
>    their specs. (OO features, excellent programming environment,
>    support for integrated C and Pascal libraries, good interface
>    builder and editor/interpreter, an integrated database engine,
>    debugger, SQL connectivity support, etc.)?

Yes.  SOme of the requires add-on modules though (C and SQL
connectivity, for instance).

I must say that the environment in my opinion, is about the best I'`ve
ever used in terms of seamless integration.  Extremely well designed.

>  * Since both Prograph and THINK C are  sold  at  a  low  market
>    price of approx. $199.00 (though I'm sure THINK  C  can  be  
>    purchased at lower
>    educational prices, but I need to check that out), which one
>    would you suggest me to use in order to actually learn Mac
>    application programming?  Let's say that my intentions are
>    geared toward industry requisites (for instance, I've worked
>    with X11R4, so that falls within "industry-based" application 
>    production software).

I'm not sure I'd consider X11R4 to be "industry-based," but if you're
saying "which of these will get me more jobs?", I'd have to say that C
is a lot more widespread than prograph in terms of its current usage.

A LOT more widespread.


jas
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