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Article #3490Re: Sudden trouble opening Excell documents
From: David Walton
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 1990 16:53
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 1990 16:53
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In article <12009@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> ee299bw@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (Unbroken Chain) writes:
>In article <3073@unisoft.UUCP> cander@unisoft.UUCP (Charles Anderson) writes:
>>on one file and then use clover-O to open it. When it fails it get the
>>proverbial "Application is missing or busy". This just started
>>happening in the last week. I ran Disinfectant 2.0, but it didn't show
>>any viruses. Any clues for the clueless?
>
>I get a similar message from time to time. The weird thing is, for
>me, if I immediately double click again, it WILL open.
>
>Have you tried doing this? It happens to me with Excel and Word 4.0 as well.
>Microsoft stuff is just plain weird. I think their interface with
>the Finder does odd stuff. With Word under Multifinder, I often get
>files or folders which can't be deleted until I quit Word, even
>though there are no Word documents open. I never have this problem
>with any other apps. MicroSoft tech support says that their products
>"behave just like everyone else's." Yeah, right.
OK, here goes. To clarify the issue:
When a user double-clicks a document, the Finder looks at the
document's signature (creator bits) in the document's Finder
information to see if it matches the signature of any application on
any currently mounted disk. The Finder will launch the first
application it finds with a matching creator signature. Under
MultiFinder, this process is modified so that the list of open
applications is checked first to see if one of them has a matching
signature; if so, MultiFinder sends the application a message to open
the document. [The latter part doesn't always work, either; the
application must have the appropriate menu commands or resources for
MultiFinder to send it the message.]
The Finder generates the "Application is busy or missing" message when
it can't find an application with a matching signature. Really, the
only way an application can influence this process is by setting or
not setting the creator bits in the document's Finder information,
with the following exceptions:
* The program could set the file's invisible bit. In this case the
issue is moot, because you couldn't see the file to double-click
on it anyway.
* The program could set the document's Bundle bit. This isn't very
likely; the program would probably do this only under exceptional
circumstances. Setting the Bundle bit on a document causes all
other documents of the same type to be identified as being
owned by that document. If you had a Word document called "Your
mother was a hampster" and you set its Bundle bit, all of your
standard Word documents (i.e., not the dicionaries or the help
files) would be identified by the Finder as "Your mother was a
hampster" documents.
There may be other ways for an Application to mess up the way the
Finder opens documents, but I suspect that they're somewhat obscure,
and that the application wouldn't have any real reason for employing
them. (I could certainly be wrong, and am open to corrections.)
The long and short of all this is that if you get the "Application is
busy or missing" message, it's not the application's fault, it's the
Finder's. What's probably happened is that the desktop file--the file
that contains all of the creator signatures of all of your
applications--has been corrupted or has gotten too large, and the
Finder can't find the signature or location of the correct
application. If you want to fix the problem, then, you have to
persuade the desktop file that it really _does_ know where the correct
application is. These steps have been recommended by nine out of
ten Mac users to cure your desktop ills (and they won't stick to
your dental work!):
* Rebuild the desktop file. You can do this by holding down the
command and option keys together 1) during the startup sequence,
or 2) when you insert the disk in question. When you do this, you
should get a dialog box asking you if you really want to rebuild
the desktop file; click OK. Wait a couple of minutes, and then
try double-clicking your documents again. If it still doesn't
work, try the next step. WARNING: rebuilding your desktop file
has the unfortunate side effect of erasing all of the comments in
the Finder's Get Info box.
* Copy the file with the Duplicate command in the File menu, and
delete the original. If this doesn't work, or you don't have
sufficient disk space, then
* Copy the application with the Duplicate command, and then delete
the original. This puts the application's information at the top
of the desktop file, so the Finder is more likely to find it.
* Put the document in the same folder as the application. Open it,
then move it back into its folder and try again.
* Open the application's window before you double-click on your
document. You may have to do this every time you want to open
your document(s).
Hope this helps (whew!).
>Dave
>--
>*********************** Dave Chesavage ****************************
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David Walton Internet: dwal@midway.uchicago.edu
University of Chicago { Any opinions found herein are mine, not }
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