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From macq@miguel.llnl.gov Mon May  6 16:37:09 1991
 
I've used Kaleidagraph, it is good. Interface probably similar to cricketgraph..
Unless excel has improved drastically in the last couple of upgrades, avoid it..
I'd worry about the hardcopy quality of wingz, as described by the following qu.
How easy is it to make a printed plot fill a whole page, and do you get fine li.
I've seen somebody else's Deltagraph plots on-sreen and they looked good.
Also investigate Igor. There are quite a few scientists who swear by it.
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Don MacQueen
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From: john@micor.ocunix.on.ca (John Kane)
 
I was interested in your question about graphing packages.  
I must admit that we know nothing about any of them except 
Excel which I have used a bit. However, because you are talking 
about handling scientific data I thought I wod suggest that you 
have a look at the graphing capacities of the statistics progm
SYSTAT.  It is a package designed specifically for scientific 
graphical analyss l not will do a tremendous amount of things 
that something like Excel either will do or has a lot of trouble
doing.  For example it will jitter data to allow ber resolution in 
areas where there are a lot of data points, it can handle error easily, 
it can handle influence plots well when you are interested in the effef 
outlyers, etc.  It can easily handle all (or damn near all) of the
graphical as techniques that Cleveland in his book 'The elements of 
graphing data', (Clevel, Wm. S. (1985) "The elements of graphing data". 
Monterey Ca.:Wadsworth Advanced Books and Software.) describes (such as 
sploms) as well as a couple others thae way too esoteric for me to ever 
want to use.  If you ever need Tukey's Exploray Data Analysis types of 
graphs they are all there.  The package also allows almy conceivable
kind of data transformation plus the ability to graph about any two 
and three dimension equations you might want.
I currently am using V3.2 which has a less than pretty interface - 
a legacy ofrport from the DOS world.  There is reportedly a new
V5.0 out with a  real Mac interface. I've been too lazy and cheap 
to get the upgrade. I have seen the pl stats/graphic MYSTAT which 
reportedly is the pilot of V5.0 and it does follow e Mac interface 
quite well.  SYSTAT also exists in the DOS world and I think it n
VAXen and by now probably more platforms.
 
 For real data analysis rather than just pretty pictures I don't think 
you can o better.  Mind you with a good laser printer you can make 
some really pretty ps as well.  Oh yes - in my limited experience 
the technical support is good also You may be able to find the 
package at your university bookstore.  I bought my original copy 
(of V3.1) in my university's bookstore.  SYSTAT gives very substantial educational discounts.  If not, the address is
SYSTAT Inc.
2902 Central St.
Evanston, Il.
60201
Tel: (312) 864-5670
 
 No I don't work for the company but I am a satisfied user. If you really need y duty scientific graphing capacity then I really think you should take a good lt this.
 
 John Kane                                      john@micor.ucunix.on.ca
 Ottawa/Hull Canada                       (819) 770-5468
 Canada
                                           
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From: gt7686b@prism.gatech.edu (BINDEMANN)
 
I have been a satisfied user of KaleidaGraph.  I use it extensively
for scientific line graphs.  It is much faster than the older versions
of CricketGraph is used years ago.  I do not know if Cricket has
made their program any faster.  You may also want to download the
demo version of IGOR from sumex-aim.stanford.edu (I think it is in
the info-mac/demo directory and is available via anonymous ftp).
I looked at this demo and found that IGOR seems to be more powerful,
however, KaleidaGraph is more suited for most of the work I do.
 
If you have any questions regarding KaleidaGraph I would be happy to
try and answer them for you.  Good Luck!
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Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Internet: gt7686b@prism.gatech.edu
I'm a Nervous Wreck from Georgia Tech and a Helluva Engineer .
 
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From MIKAEL_B@maja.teknikum.uu.se Wed May 15 07:01:26 1991
Date: Wed, 15 May 91 13:59 +0100
From: MIKAEL_B@maja.teknikum.uu.se
Subject: Graph
To: cliu@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
X-Vms-To: BOOT::IN%"cliu@copper.ucs.indiana.edu"
 
KaleidaGraph is in my opinion the best 2-dimensional graphing program around.
As easy to use as Cricket Graph but with several important extra features,
larger data, sets, faster, plotting of several data sets in the same diagram,
coordinate readout from the graph, zoom, scripting curve fitting to user
defined functions, good mathematics capabilities, excellent data import feature
etc etc etc etc. Deltagraph mostly sits on my bookshelf, together with Cricket
Graph, nice for 3-d colour graphs if thats what you like, also possible to link
to Excel under multifinder, so the limited set of mathematical functions might
not be to large a drawback.It is slow, does not place the plot symbols properly
so you can't read data from the diagram with high accuracy, 3d scatterplots ,
which I've used most, incorrectly mixes the x and y axis, very confusing. In
all a program I don't like to much but better than Cricket Graph which hasn't
hade a upgrade since ???. Besides Cricket Graph can even do a reliable linear
curve fit, you have to use polynom grade 1. Feel free to ask more.
Mikael Bergkvist
Uppsala University
Dept. of Tech.
Uppsala Sweden