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BLATANT ADVERTISING!! Try Nisus ;-)

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From: Jon Matousek
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 1990 20:50
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In article <1990Nov28.145957.10136@rodan.acs.syr.edu>
rsholmes@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Rich Holmes) writes:
>In article <4088@network.ucsd.edu> jon@weber.ucsd.edu (jOn mAtOUsEk) writes:
>>Don't believe them, try it out for yourself. E-mail me your name and
>>address for a free Nisus 3 demo disk. Any questions call Paragon's
>...
>>SoftwareEngineer: jOn mAtOUsEk;      Internet:  jon@weber.ucsd.edu
>>%%                                   Bitnet:    jmatousek@ucsd
>>Paragon Concepts, Inc.               AppleLink: D0405     
>
>-- FLAME ON --
>
>Is anyone else as sick and tired as I am of seeing this BLATANT ADVERTISING
>for Nisus any time someone asks a question about MS Word??
>
>For that matter, doesn't this kind of advertising violate netiquette?
>
>Jon, all these people are asking "How can I use this program I already have to
>do what I want" -- not "How can I spend another bundle of money on software
>I may not need".
>
>I may be wrong -- perhaps these folks really do appreciate knowing Nisus can
>solve their problems -- but your pushiness annoys the heck out of me.  And
>maybe it doesn't violate netiquette, but if it doesn't, it should.
>
>Pardon me while I go edit my kill file.
>
>-- FLAME OFF --
>--
> - Rich Holmes                                  rich@suhep.bitnet
>   Syracuse U. Physics Dept.                    rich@suhep.phy.syr.edu
>                                or if you must: rsholmes@rodan.acs.syr.edu
>   "The United States -- Making the World Safe For Monarchy!"
>

Hello Rich,

-- FLAME OFF --

I am very sorry that I have made you and a few others upset with my net
postings. You should know though that approximately 400 netters have responded
positively to my postings over the last year, thanking me for the information
and the opportunity to get a Nisus demo disk. Moreover, there are a number of
ex-Word users who are grateful Nisus came along.

I personally do not consider my postings "BLATANT ADVERTISING." If I were not
affiliated with Paragon I would be doing the same thing, as others have done
on America Online, Genie, and Compuserve, and even here on the internet.
Affiliation with Paragon aside, I have a genuine appreciation for Nisus. I use
Nisus at least 6 hours a day to write C code as I find it the most convenient
and efficient way to edit/view source code; my uses of Nisus are not limited
to editing code however.

About 3 years ago I bought into MS Word; all the magazines said it was the
best, the salesman in the store said it was the best and MS was a big company
who could afford to do it right. How could I go wrong? I spent a good year
fighting first MSW 1.5 and then version 3. Being a programmer I have come to
expect bugs in applications. What I did not expect, however, was the enormous
problems Word had. MS Word has taught me one thing, not to believe a bunch of
hype when it comes to software. And hype it truly is.

After I started working for Paragon last year, I found out why there is so much
hype. Retailers who sell software have but one thing in mind, to make money.
Very rarely do you find a software salesman who has researched his products
and who is willing to offer you the best software for your needs. Doing so
would be costly in time and money. Instead, salesmen sell for other reasons:
what they have in stock, brand name recognition, prizes from big companies to
salesmen who sell the most of their software. And how do retailers decide
which software will be lucky enough to sit on their shelves? Brand name
recognition, and precedents; i.e. if your product was lucky enough to be the
first of its type on the shelves then it will probably remain on the shelves,
even if it is a complete dog! If your product does not fall into the first two
categories then the other way in which it may end up on the shelf or in a
retailers catalog (including mail order ads or their catalogs) is for the
company of the product to pay, money or product or both! For small companies,
like Paragon, this can be a real problem. There is even one chain of software
retailers out there who will not carry Nisus because it will, in their
opinion, kill the sales of other word processors on their shelves, and they
would be losing money.

Now we come to the main reason why I'm on the nets promoting Nisus: I do not
want people who buy software to make the same mistake I made or the mistake
others have made, by being hoodwinked into buying inferior products that do
not solve their needs. I do this by providing a service that retailers will
not provide; informing folks on the net about how Nisus will solve a problem,
and offering a free demo disk to prove it. Is this really so bad? I realize
that this is considered borderline advertising and that is why I have taken to
adding the words "Try Nisus" to the title of the article. This offers the
offended the chance to "junk", "kill" or whatever the article.

I am interested in finding out what other folks on the net think? My intention
is to inform, not to offend. If you consider my postings offensive, then tell
me how I can continue to inform the folks who are interested in knowing more
about Nisus.

-jOn

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