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In article <8282@life.ai.mit.edu>, ericf@montreux (Eric Feigenson) writes:
> OK, I have system 6.0.5 (which I don't care what anybody says, it
> crashes a *lot* more than previous versions, like 6.0.3) and have
> Finder Sounds (whatever the most recent version from sumex is) which
> is pretty cool.  I also downloaded The Grouch (also the latest from
> sumex).  Now, The Grouch works fine (and since I have Kermit on my
> Mac, I'm rapidly getting the entire cast of Sesame Street here!), but
> I get either the FinderSound sound or no sound (if I disable the trash
> can sound in Finder Sounds).  Is there any way of getting The Grouch
> to do its sound thing with Finder Sounds active?  I have copied one of
> The Grouch's sounds into Finder Sounds for the trash emptying, so I
> get *one* of the sounds *after* Oscar has done his thing.  A
> compromise that works, but I'd like to get Oscar to do his singing
> (both songs) in his own time.  If anyone has any insight into this,
> please let me know!  The future of the free world depends on it!!!!
> :-)

The problem is that Finder Sounds still has a sound channel open when Oscar
tries to sing his song.  Finder Sounds needs a chance to clean up its sound
channel after playing the menubar sounds, and Finder Sounds won't get that
chance until after the trash has been emptied.  The sounds you will need to
turn off are the  "Select from menu" and probably the "Mouse down in menubar." 
If you turn these sounds off, Oscar will sing (I just tried it). 

Unfortunately, I don't know of any good way to make it work with those sounds
turned on, due to the nature of the hooks Apple has provided.  The current
version of Finder Sounds is 1.2.  Sumex is currently swamped, so they haven't
posted 1.2, yet, but they have it.  You can get Finder Sounds 1.2 now from
coral.bucknell.edu (134.82.1.1) via anonymous FTP.  Just 'cd mac' when you get
there.  The file is called FINDERSOUNDS12_SIT.BIN (or FINDERSOUNDS12_SIT.HQX).

> -Eric
> ericf@zurich.ai.mit.edu

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In article <1990May6.174411.2732@coral.bucknell.edu> smith@coral.bucknell.edu (Greg Smith) writes:
>In article <8282@life.ai.mit.edu>, ericf@montreux (Eric Feigenson) writes:
>> OK, I have system 6.0.5 (which I don't care what anybody says, it
>> crashes a *lot* more than previous versions, like 6.0.3) and have
>> Finder Sounds (whatever the most recent version from sumex is) which
>> is pretty cool.  I also downloaded The Grouch (also the latest from
>> sumex).  Now, The Grouch works fine (and since I have Kermit on my
>> Mac, I'm rapidly getting the entire cast of Sesame Street here!), but
>> I get either the FinderSound sound or no sound (if I disable the trash
>> can sound in Finder Sounds).  Is there any way of getting The Grouch
>> to do its sound thing with Finder Sounds active?  I have copied one of
>> The Grouch's sounds into Finder Sounds for the trash emptying, so I
>> get *one* of the sounds *after* Oscar has done his thing.  A
>> compromise that works, but I'd like to get Oscar to do his singing
>> (both songs) in his own time.  If anyone has any insight into this,
>> please let me know!  The future of the free world depends on it!!!!
>> :-)
>
>The problem is that Finder Sounds still has a sound channel open when Oscar
>tries to sing his song.  Finder Sounds needs a chance to clean up its sound
>channel after playing the menubar sounds, and Finder Sounds won't get that
>chance until after the trash has been emptied.  The sounds you will need to
>turn off are the  "Select from menu" and probably the "Mouse down in menubar." 
>If you turn these sounds off, Oscar will sing (I just tried it). 
>
>Unfortunately, I don't know of any good way to make it work with those sounds
>turned on, due to the nature of the hooks Apple has provided.  The current
>version of Finder Sounds is 1.2.  Sumex is currently swamped, so they haven't
>posted 1.2, yet, but they have it.  You can get Finder Sounds 1.2 now from
>coral.bucknell.edu (134.82.1.1) via anonymous FTP.  Just 'cd mac' when you get
>there.  The file is called FINDERSOUNDS12_SIT.BIN (or FINDERSOUNDS12_SIT.HQX).
>

Well, I don't know about System 6.0.5, but with 6.0.4, you can use both the
"Select from menu" and "Mouse down in menubar" sounds and Oscar still sings
away just fine.  I'm using a IIcx, with zillions of INITs, including Finder
Sounds 1.2.  I do have the window title bar sounds off, since they are just
annoying to me.

Dave Barnhart
NCR Cooperative Computing Systems Division
3245 Platt Springs Rd.
West Columbia, SC  29169    email: uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!secola!oiscola!dbarnhar

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