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In article <4308@munnari.oz.au> kklw@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Kevin K L WONG) writes:
>...I just wonder whether we can draw such
>lines in MD II or not. I tried 0-point, and it's REALLY zero ie NOTHING !!

You can use decimal fractions -- I've gotten pretty good lines on the
laserwriter using "0.5" point as the line width.

noah

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In article <4308@munnari.oz.au> kklw@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Kevin K L WONG) writes:
>I think the 1-point line in MD II (and other drawing apps) is far too
>thick, esp for slanting lines. As I know we can draw very thin line

I use 0.5 point or 0.25 point as line widths.

>
>Also, about the arrows... The arrow heads are often not centered
>properly in the final print out.

Do you have version 1.1 ? I believe something was fixed on the arrowheads
for that version.  Check the alignment at 400%.
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In article <4308@munnari.oz.au>, kklw@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Kevin K L
WONG) writes:
> I think the 1-point line in MD II (and other drawing apps) is far too
> thick, esp for slanting lines. As I know we can draw very thin line
> in Postscript (1-point in PS), I just wonder whether we can draw such
> lines in MD II or not. I tried 0-point, and it's REALLY zero ie
> NOTHING !!
Minor correction: 1 point is the same size in PsotScript as on the Mac screen.
If you mean 1 pixel, this isn't a standard number as PostScript is resolution
independent. If you ask for a line too thin for a given printer, you are
given the thinnest possible line instead. This can have unfortunate
consequences - I once had a drawing which looked fine when printed on a laser
printer, but almost disappeared on a Linotronic at over 2000 dots per inch,
because the lines were too thin.

Philip Machanick
philip@pescadero.stanford.edu

One irritating thing about MacDraw II 1.0 is that once you change the
arrowheads given to you at startup, it is apparently impossible to get
them back to the original format.  You can play with them all day, but
the original shape cannot be recreated.  Sheesh.

In article <70800001@p.cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>
>One irritating thing about MacDraw II 1.0 is that once you change the
>arrowheads given to you at startup, it is apparently impossible to get
>them back to the original format.  You can play with them all day, but
>the original shape cannot be recreated.  Sheesh.

Create a template document with all the arrowheads you like (inc. the default)
then just make a copy when you want a particular one.

Many features of MDII are really wonderful, but its arrowhead implementation
is one of its weak points.  If you have a line with existing arrows, and you
want to change them you need to change to a line with no arrows, edit the
arrow, then put the arrows back. Intuitive?

And another thing .. How come I can put arrows on the ends of a curved
segment in good old MacDraft but not in the latest release from Claris?
(but MacDraft's arrows are really ugly - you just can't win.. )
George Jefferson    jeffe@eniac.seas.upenn.edu   george@sol1.lrsm.upenn.edu

In article <25436@netnews.upenn.edu> jeffe@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.UUCP (George J. Jefferson) writes:
>In article <70800001@p.cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu writes:
  
>>One irritating thing about MacDraw II 1.0 is that once you change the
>>arrowheads given to you at startup, it is apparently impossible to get
>>them back to the original format.  You can play with them all day, but
>>the original shape cannot be recreated.  Sheesh.
 
>Create a template document with all the arrowheads you like (inc. the default)
>then just make a copy when you want a particular one.
 
>Many features of MDII are really wonderful, but its arrowhead implementation
>is one of its weak points.  If you have a line with existing arrows, and you
>want to change them you need to change to a line with no arrows, edit the
>arrow, then put the arrows back. Intuitive?


Actually, why can't MDII have a few arrowhead settings within one stationery
like the dashed line? I found the change of the shape of an existing
arrowhead irritating as well.

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