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From the 'want list'

>	- Automatic numbering of sections, lists, and figures.  Word
>understands headings, but it doesn't know how to automatically
>renumber them.  Idealiner numbers and renumbers as you add and move
>section headers, so I would think that it would simple to do.  Also,
>Word doesn't seem to understand anything about figures.  I hate to
>think of going through and numbering figures by hand.
>
>	- References to other parts of the document.  Things like "see
>section 3.2 for further information" and "as shown in figure 3 on page 24."
>Again, I don't want to have to do all this numbering by hand --- that's what
>computers are for.

MSWord's biggest shortcoming in my opinion.

A better-than-by-hand method of numbering equations, figures, sections,
whatever involves using the 'mail merge' feature.  Give each item to be
numbered a unique name enclosed in the funny brackets that the merge
function recognises.

Example
                     y = y                                 (<<eq1>>)

as you can see from equation <<eq1>> etc etc ..
 
That's the easy part.  Now you need to construct a list of your reference
names and the corresponding numbers like this

eq1,eq2,eq3,section1,section2,fig1
1.1,1.2,1.3,1,2,1

Then mail merge - and all of the proper substitutions are done. I'll assume
that anybody still interested can look up how to use the 
mail merge as well as I  could explain it.  Constructing the list of
references may be more or less difficult than numbering the paper
by hand would have been.

This may sound contrived (it is) but it is sometimes better than the
old fasioned way if you have lots of references.

George Jefferson    jeffe@eniac.seas.upenn.edu   george@sol1.lrsm.upenn.edu

> Then mail merge - and all of the proper substitutions are done. I'll assume
> that anybody still interested can look up how to use the 
> mail merge as well as I  could explain it.  Constructing the list of
> references may be more or less difficult than numbering the paper
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> by hand would have been.

Actually, you could probably use the automatic table-of-contents
generation feature to extract your mail-merge information.  Then copy
the table of contents to a separate file, use a substitution or two to
format it as a single comma-separated list, and enter the appropriate
numbers / letters.  This would automate the entire process (in a
clumsy way).

Tonight I just got really sick of this new shortcoming in MS-Word.  So
far, we have:
  (a) Lousy-looking equations
  (b) Inability to justify text containing fractional widths
  (c) Lack of automatic numbering of figures or references

One or two more serious flaws and I'll switch to TeX, I swear.  It's
so stupid.  MS-Word already has the basic equipment for automatic
numbering (hidden text).  Users should be able to type phrases like
	<<id1>>
	^^^^^^^
in hidden text, which word would glady replace by 
	<<id1A>>
	^^^^^ ^^ 
which would show the label "A" on the screen, and facilitate
renumbering (renumber type-1 phrases using capital alphabetics) in the
future.  That way, you could have an arbitrary number of labelings,
and could always renumber in a different way.  This would be oodles
simpler than the current, complicated "line numbering" and "paragraph
numbering" abortions in ms-word.

Don Gillies, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Illinois
1304 W. Springfield, Urbana, Ill 61801      
ARPA: gillies@cs.uiuc.edu   UUCP: {uunet,harvard}!uiucdcs!gillies

> 	- Automatic numbering of sections, lists, and figures.
> 	- References to other parts of the document.
> 	- Bibliographies in various formats.
> 	- Support for environments.

The first three out of four features are found in a shareware
application and Hypercard stack collectively referred to as WordRef. 
WordRef works in conjunction with Microsoft Word, so--because you
already have Word--I expect you'll want to give WordRef a try.  You'll
find it available for anonymous ftp at sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the
files /info-mac/app/word-ref-13-part1.hqx and
/info-mac/app/word-ref-13-part2.hqx.  Here's the Introduction section
from the user's guide which explains its capabilities.

Note: I made some slight editing changes to correct characters which
don't translate well from the Macintosh character set to the ASCII
character set.

-------------------------------------------
WordRef User's Guide
version 1.3
16 December 1989
Copyright 1989  Mark H. Nodine




1.      Introduction

WordRef is an application which allows users of Microsoft Word to define
and refer to cross-references and to have citations and bibliographies
automatically generated.  This is accomplished via the Print Merge
facility of Microsoft Word: the cross-references and citations are print
merge variables (enclosed in << and >>) which the WordRef application
scans and provides values to.

WordRef is being distributed under the ShareWare system.  If you find it
useful, the price is $25, which should be sent to:

Mark Nodine
70 Mountain Avenue
Riverside, RI  02915-5016

Permission is granted to copy and distribute WordRef, provided that the
complete package (application, stack, desk accessory, and document) is
kept together, and that the package not be sold commercially for more
than the reasonable cost for the distribution medium. Bug reports or
suggestions can be mailed to the above address or sent via electronic
mail to "man@cs.brown.edu".

There have been at least two earlier applications released which use the
Print Merge facility of Microsoft Word for similar purposes.  I have
opted to write my own because neither one of these (Scholar's Aid and
Xref) were general enough to suit my needs.  I have tried to make this
application as flexible as possible so that it can accommodate virtually
any bibliographic style or cross-referencing needs.  Some of the
features of WordRef are

o       No limit on the number of counters (variables) used for
cross-references.
o       Variables can be combined in general arithmetic expressions.
o       Increment operators are included for convenience.
o       Variables can have strings interspersed with numbers.
o       Can scan Word files directly (if Fast Save is off).
o       There can be any number of Word files or bibliography files in a
single manuscript.
o       The bibliography files are kept in the ever popular BibTEX format.
o       A HyperCard stack is provided for maintaining the bibliography files.
o       An additional field is provided for each card for free-form
comments, keywords, etc.
o       Several different citation styles are provided to go at the
point of reference.
o       A user-definable style sheet is used for formatting the
bibliography entries.

If you have used an earlier version of WordRef, you will be interested
in section 7 of this document which is entitled "Release Notes".

Many thanks are due to Herb Barad who developed the stack on which the
WordRef stack was based and kindly gave permission to use it as my
starting point.  Thanks are also due to Sven Axelsson who substantially
reworked the user interface of the WordRef stack during testing.

-------------------------------------------

I've experimented with an earlier version of WordRef (mostly playing
with the Hypercard stack to manipulate bibliography entries), and I've
found that it works extremely well.  I highly recommend it!

-Jeff E. Nelson
-Digital Equipment Corporation
-Internet:  jnelson@tle.enet.dec.com
-Affiliation given for identification purposes only

In article <12080@shlump.nac.dec.com>, jnelson@gauche.enet.dec.com (Jeff
E. Nelson) writes:
> 
> > 	- Automatic numbering of sections, lists, and figures.
> > 	- References to other parts of the document.
> > 	- Bibliographies in various formats.
> > 	- Support for environments.
> 
> The first three out of four features are found in a shareware
> application and Hypercard stack collectively referred to as WordRef. 
> WordRef works in conjunction with Microsoft Word, so--because you
> already have Word--I expect you'll want to give WordRef a try.  You'll
> find it available for anonymous ftp at sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the
> files /info-mac/app/word-ref-13-part1.hqx and
> /info-mac/app/word-ref-13-part2.hqx.  Here's the Introduction section
> from the user's guide which explains its capabilities.

Small correction - they're called wordref-13-part1.hqx and wordref-13-part2.hq
(no hyphen between word and ref). I haven't tried this; I have tried Fullwrite,
which does most of what was requred, but badly needs a major revision to
fix loose ends/bugs. I'm looking forward to it (optimist - OK, but I prefer
the overall concept to MS Word, and would really like to see it properly
developed).

Philip Machanick
philip@pescadero.stanford.edu

In article <81032@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Todd R Johnson
<tj@aristotle.cis.ohio-state.edu> writes:
>
>       I do a lot of technical writing for scientific journals and
>conferences.  Soon I will also begin writing my dissertation which I
>
>       - Bibliographies in various formats.  Word doesn't seem to
>know anything about references.  I would like to be able to enter
>a database of references in a single format and have the WP suck in the
>ones that I need and format them according to the style that I select,
>including the pointer to the reference in the text.  I'm looking for
>something similar to BibTeX.

EndNote will let you make bibliographies in Word, WriteNow, WordPerfect
and MacWrite 5.0.  It does a lot of nifty  formatting and renumbering and
we seem to have a lot of happy customers.




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In article <18296@well.sf.ca.us> nilesinc@well.sf.ca.us (Avi Rappoport) writes:
>
>EndNote will let you make bibliographies in Word, WriteNow, WordPerfect
>and MacWrite 5.0.  It does a lot of nifty  formatting and renumbering and
>we seem to have a lot of happy customers.
>
Count me as one of the "hc's".  Now when EndNote supports a
glossary-like list of common reference sources, so it's easier to add
"yet another important paper from good ol' JAS (Journal of Arcane
Science)" it will be even more invaluable.

-- 
  == Daniel ==                     Daniel Sternbergh
                                   ddaniel@lindy.stanford.edu
                                  {decwrl|sun}!lindy.stanford.edu!ddaniel
                                   BITNET:  ddaniel%lindy@stanford

There is a shareware package called "WordRef", which does pretty much
what you want.  It consists of a Hypercard stack, a browser DA, and an
application.  The stack is used to maintain bibliographies, which can
be exported to BibTeX format, if you like.  The DA allows one to scan
through a bibliography while using Word.  The application does the
real work --- it scans through (possibly multiple) Word files (saved
with "Fast Save" off) and builds auxilliary files for
cross-references, citations, numbered figures, titles, tables, etc.
Then, you use the Word mail-merge command to produce the final
product.  One catch is that it is compatible with Word 3.x, not 4.x.
Not too great a loss for me, since I consider Word 4 to be a dog.

I have been investigating FullWrite Professional lately.  It looks
very good, and does almost everything one might want, except that its
bibliography capabilities are pathetic.  Almost no flexibility in
citation format, and actual entries would have to be hand-reformatted
(not to mention that you have to manually delete or enter them in).
Also, you'd have to use Expressionist or something for equations (then
again, Word's equations are kinda ugly, anyway).  I still haven't
figured out if its possible to have a table of contents, list of
figures, etc, or if everything would just go into the table of
contents.  However, there have been consistent rumors about an
upgrade, and one can only hope that FullWrite will be the first
WYSIWYG program to give us everything we need...
--
			    Michael Stiber
   stiber@cs.ucla.edu                  UCLA Computer Science Dept.
   ...{ucbvax,ihpn4}!ucla-cs!stiber    Machine Perception Laboratory
                                 3564 Boelter Hall,Los Angeles, CA 90024

On this subject, I just discovered Word's Formula glossary (I have
version 4.0a)
doesn't include the symbols for "subset" and "subset or equal to". The reason,
I suppose, is they are pretty hard to find: you type 2 keystrokes to get them
(OPTION-n SHIFT-A and OPTION-n SHIFT-O, of course while in Symbol font). If
someone in Microsoft reads this, perhaps they could correct this oversight,
since most people are going to battle to find these 2 (commonly needed)
symbols from the keyboard. (Who knows why they were mapped to a part of the
alphabet not found by a simple keystroke...At least this isn't Microsoft's
fault.)

Philip Machanick
philip@pescadero.stanford.edu