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Article #481Re: Odesta's Double Helix
From: Jim McKee
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:31
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:31
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In article <1992Dec22.223620.8948@news.acns.nwu.edu> geek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Myrland Gray) writes: >In article <1992Dec21.003958.20064@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jek5036@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.E. King) writes: >> >>Seems as though everybody uses Filemaker Pro 2.0v2 and 4th Dimension.. Some >>people have mentioned FoxBase/Mac.. what ever happened to Double Helix? >>How do people feel about DH? As a consultant I recommend DH for most >>applications because of it's flexibility and power. Other comments on DH? > >First of all, Odesta Corporation went out of business almost a year ago, and >the Double Helix product line was purchased and a new company called Helix >Technologies was started to continue to support and develop Double Helix. Just >recently, the next generation of Double Helix (called "Helix Express") was >released which included all sorts of new features (that I won't go into now) >and some much-needed bug fixes. > >Now that that's cleared up...my comments about Helix. Don't bother. Helix can't >do anything that any (if not every) other Mac database can't do. Much (~50%) of >Helix's source is almost 10 years old and completely unintelligible to humans. >As more and more changes happen in the Machintosh world, Helix gets further and >further out of date - with little or no chance of ever catching up. The >management at Helix Technologies can't seem to grasp the concept that the world >around them is changing and they need to take their blinders off and at least >try to get back in the race. > >PS - If you couldn't tell, I have a disliking of the company because of the way >I was (and still am) treated. I used to work on Helix, both before and after >Odesta went down in flames. Never have I seen a more talented, yet severly >misguided group of individuals. Everyone has their own slant on this, and I am not disagreeing with Joey Gray. However, that said, the value of a program depends on what the user needs it to do. I believe that most people aren't running Fortune 500 companies, and also, they don't want to have to learn a database programming language to get a system up-and-running to drive their small business, non-profit or organization. Helix is an extremely powerful relational database that is extraordinarily easy for non-programmers to work with. Easy doesn't mean "wimpish." True, I would not want to run an airline with it. But, again, for most people, it's probably actually more than they need. And, it works. I trust my data (which equals my business survival) to this program, and have for 6 years. And, I have found the folks at Odesta (now Helix Technologies) extremely helpful and responsive. Once when I needed a way to suppress Totals fields from printing on each page of a report, a guy at Odesta stayed late on a Friday to create a relation containing examples of how to do this, and sent it out to me Fedex -> I had it on Monday morning. I haven't ever seen THAT kind of user support in any other company I have dealt with. So, for people who are advanced programmers, developers, or whatever, Helix Express may not be your bag. But, for us folks who don't give a damn (or much of one) about why or how a program does what it does, Helix Express just plain works. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim McKee \ "The reward is in the journey." jmckee@world.std.com / On the Red Road with my brothers and all my jmckee@silver.lcs.mit.edu \ relations. Ho! Mitakuye Oyasin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!world!jmckee From: jmckee@world.std.com (Jim McKee) Subject: Re: Odesta's Double Helix Message-ID: <Bzouwx.43w@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <1992Dec21.003958.20064@ultb.isc.rit.edu> <1992Dec22.223620.8948@news.acns.nwu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:31:44 GMT Lines: 60