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Open Letter to Apple Board
Author: Michael*Schneider
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http://www2.maccpu.com/maccpu/letter.html Newer Technologies -------------------------------------------- An open letter to Apple's Board of Directors Robert J Moriarty September 7th 1997 There are some 20-million or so Mac users or vendors in the Mac ecosystem. If Apple disappeared from the face of the earth tomorrow, graphics professionals would still produce ads on old Macs, the little kiddies would still be planking away on their Apple IIs in school, developers would be writing code for somebody, and people would be buying and selling computers - they just wouldn't be computers with colored Apple logos on the front. And at the end of the day, I doubt it would make an iota of difference to anyone. Apple is irrelevant now to the vast majority of those in the Mac ecosystem. Whatever stupid decisions were made last week, Mac users will still buy computers and resellers will still sell them. No matter if Apple makes computers or not. And while Steve Jobs may believe people are lining up to buy computers from him, I don't see any lines forming. I just hear a lot of people grumbling about getting screwed. Steve Jobs has personally driven more Mac users into the Wintel camp in the past three weeks than all the poor management of Apple Computer accomplished in the past five years. Steve Jobs is fundamentally dishonest. Basic honesty is so important a part of any business deal, that no vendor or developer, indeed, no computer buyer, will ever again enter into any deal with Apple without serious consideration as to how Steve could screw him. Steve Jobs is the Fuehrer or Czar, or whatever you want to call him, of Apple Computer. He is calling all the shots. He doesn't have the guts to call himself CEO and his actions over the past six weeks have guaranteed no one in their right mind would even consider taking over now. He says he is a board member and just a consultant but if he quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck and has feathers like a duck, he's a duck. Jobs has made earthshaking decisions for Apple which could easily be very wrong. He can do that, he owns one share of stock and has absolutely nothing to lose. Let's look at Steve's background as a Computer Fuehrer. Jobs and Woz met and determined the idea of making personal computers might make them some money. They got into bed with Mike Markula and founded Apple. Woz was the brains behind the computer, Markula had the business sense, Steve Jobs was the shill. The con man who would drag the marks into the tent. We all run around acting as if Steve Jobs is some kind of computer genius. Actually he wasn't behind the success of the Mac, he was the brains behind the Lisa. He hated the Mac and didn't take over the project until it became obvious to everyone that the Lisa was a lemon and the Mac a winner. What did he do after being unceremoniously dumped by John Scully? He founded Next where once again he could try to foist an over-priced, under-powered nag onto an unsuspecting public. The Next computer proved to be as popular as the Lisa and the 9600/350 soon will be. Customers aren't actually all that dumb. Was the Power Computing/Apple deal of last Tuesday a good business move? The answer will surprise you. The Power Computing deal will be the subject of a Harvard Business School study just as soon as they can type it into a word processing program. The last time anyone made a deal like this, the Indians on Manhattan sold the island for some pretty necklaces. Steve Kahng sold something totally worthless to Apple Computer for $100 million dollars. He took his agreement with Apple, which by definition is without value, and turned it into money. From Fred Anderson, CFO of Apple, we learned Apple got a database of 200,000 names of Power Computing buyers for their $100 million. So they paid $500 apiece to get the names of people who had already made the decision with their wallets to not buy Apple computers. Fred says Apple will, "capture a significant amount of sales that they would have gotten, going forward." Duh. No kidding? Think it through for just a few seconds. Let's say 10% of those nice people get over feeling screwed by Apple and for one reason or another they just have to have an Apple. So you just added $5000 to the basic cost of the computer before you start to break even. Actually that doesn't make sense either, the clone makers were paying Apple for the privilege of producing machines. You need to add that cost, too. If every single person determined they just had to have a Mac you have still added 15% to the cost of production. Can Apple make money by loading every machine with that sort of overhead? Not in a million years. That's like the 8-year-old doing the financial planning for a lemonade stand. If you just sell one glass of lemonade for $1000, you can make your allowance for a year. Fred, are you kidding or is one of us crazy? Fred, if you think a database of people who made a decision not to buy Apple computers is such a red hot deal, I've got a Miami telephone book with five times as many people in it who don't want Apple computers and I'll give it you for free. Why not buy Dell's database, or even go for the whole cookie?; Bill Gates would sell his list of Windows users for a couple of hundred apiece. Steve Jobs keeps mumbling about honoring all of Apple's signed licensing agreements. First of all, his statement isn't true. Apple and the clones agreed to renegotiate terms to include CHRP and System 8. In any agreement, intent is an important portion. Each side presumes the other side will deal in good faith and Apple hasn't. When you go into Computer City and pick up a copy of OS 8, are you getting OS 8 in the box? No. OS 8 was canceled last year by Ellen Hancock. OS 8 was Copland. Copland never made it out of #1 Infinite Loop. You're getting System 7.7 after it was renamed. And only a liar would say, or a fool would believe, System 7.7 isn't covered under current, signed, agreements. The clone makers had all the right in the world to distribute 7.7 (aka OS8) systems. Apple and Steve Jobs can whine all they want about how CHRP isn't covered under signed agreements. The real truth is that Apple is terrified of actually facing real competition, so Apple tore up the unsigned agreements and violated the terms of certification in the existing signed agreements. In bad faith. Now Steve Jobs thinks people actually want to buy computers from him. I don't think so. You can drop a cow patty into a box and call it rose buds, but it still smells like cow plop. But what about Apple having to subsidize the clones? That sounds like a real bad deal. Apple paid the development costs to design motherboards and then let the clone makers look at the design. The clones made improvements of their own and sold computers to a willing public who saw either better machines or better service or lower cost or whatever. Then the clone makers wrote checks to Apple for from $50 up to a couple of hundred. So Steve Jobs wants the Mac ecosystem to believe, that by taking money from the clones for duplicating a design Apple had already paid for, Apple made a bad deal. Actually the clone makers added more value to the motherboard designs than Apple did in the first place. In every situation, the clone motherboards gave more performance than the original Apple design. While Apple offered 256Kb cache, clone makers gave 512Kb and 1Mb. While Apple offered 50MHz system bus speeds, Motorola and Power Computing gave 20% faster speeds. If Apple has any sense, they would have paid the clone makers for their superior designs rather than whine about how the clones were leeches. In his own words, leaked somehow to the world, (saying Apple Confidential Please do not forward) Jobs says, "Our board is convinced that if Apple continues this practice the company will never return to profitability, no matter how well Apple performs. . ." So, if Power Computing made and sold a bunch of the G3 powered Power Tower Pro 275 computers and wrote Apple a check for millions of dollars, that would be some kind of bad deal? And if Apple actually ever designed a computer their customers wanted, and could ship it, Apple would lose? "no matter how well Apple performs"? Apple wasn't giving a subsidy to the clones, the clones were giving a subsidy to Apple. And Apple came out with such brilliant machines as the 8600 which they announced on February 17th and delivered in June. But did Power Computing cause that? Did Power Computing cause the 62.5% DOA rate on Apple 15" monitors reported recently on MacInTouch? Losing money in business is a clue something isn't going right. Apple lost almost 3/4 of a billion a couple of quarters ago. In most businesses, managers would take time to reflect and often come to the conclusion maybe they were perhaps doing things wrong. The time to get arrogant is when money is flowing in, not when it flows out. Apple wasn't producing machines that made their customers shell out enough money for them to make money. Apple suffers from poor management, over-priced machines and rotten service. When they stop whining and put their noses to the grindstone, they may have a chance of survival. But to fix a problem you must first admit you have a problem and this Apple will not do. Everything wrong is somebody else's fault. MacInTouch has some interesting comments on what is really going on, in the September 5th page. A reader reports Hewlett Packard is going to cancel support of printers for the Mac ecosystem in response to a demand from Steve Jobs for lower prices. Hewlett Packard in effect told Steve Jobs to stuff Apple computers where the sun rarely shines. In one phone call Steve Jobs just managed to kill the leading supplier of printers for Macs. Is this a good move on Jobs part? Well, it makes about as much sense as him marching into the governor's office, pulling a gun and demanding lower taxes for Apple because they aren't making any money. And the response would be about as favorable to the Mac ecosystem. Not to worry. Back at the ranch Steve was in the midst of deep serious talks with his partners in the AIM Alliance, IBM and Motorola. It seems he has been deeply concerned with the PPC 750 being much faster than Apple's latest over priced and underpowered offering to its long patient customers, the 9600/350. Did he tear up the agreement with Motorola to certify the StarMax Pro 6000 CHRP machine because it was 25% faster than anything Apple could deliver? He bought off Steve Kahng in what will go down as the deal of the century. For Steve Kahng. Remember MacWorld Boston, just four weeks ago, where Motorola and Power Computing and Newer Technology all won Best of Show for their brilliant new systems driven by the fastest CPU around, the G3 or Power PC 750? Apple told Motorola to forget all about the millions of dollars they spent for research and development, Apple will not even look at the machine. In total and absolute violation of every signed agreement in place, now. He did buy off Power Computing and way down in the small print he mentioned he didn't want them selling their brilliant and far cheaper machine. Which, by the way, Apple stockholders just paid all the development costs for. So two of the three winners of Best of Show will never have a chance to sell any of the machines. But that left Newer Technology. Newer won Best of Show at MacWorld Boston and Apple didn't. Fortunately there aren't any Apple/Newer agreements for Apple to sign and then tear up. Apple promised users an upgrade path for their 7500, 8500 and 9500 computers when they were first released, over two years ago, and has never felt the market was worth developing. So Newer developed the aftermarket upgrades and presents no threat to Apple in the slightest. Newer sells products for the 2 million of so PCI Macs already delivered. But it just happens Newer's MAXpowr PRO and PRO+ are far faster than the very best that Apple can ship. Steve Jobs asked both IBM and Motorola to delay sending the PPC 750 and cache parts to Newer Technology, so Newer wouldn't be able to compete with Apple. Apple's not making money just because Power Computing makes computers or something. It's so complicated that only Steve Jobs understands, I think. Or at least that's what he wants us to believe. Steve Jobs didn't catch IBM and Motorola at the best of times. Both companies spent hundreds of millions of dollars in development of the PPC 750 and the ultra high-speed cache necessary to make the CPU perform. And Apple had just backed out of agreements three years old. IBM told Steve to stuff his computers and assured Newer they would get all the cache and CPU chips they need, as did Motorola. Motorola actually took their frustration with Steve Jobs and his giant ego one step further. The Chairman of Motorola passed around an internal memo stating they would cease all development work on the PowerPC and would no longer ship CPUs to Apple as of sometime next year. So if you want a real good deal on an overpriced and underpowered machine from Steve Jobs, you had better sign up now. Apple won't be delivering any PPC powered machines as of next year. Rumor has it that CEO Chris Galvin of Motorola may have included some comment about where Apple and Steve Jobs could place their computers. It had something to do with the sun never shining. Newer will be delivering their PPC 750 MAXpowr PRO and MAXpowr PRO+ CPU upgrades just as they have always planned. Somewhere around 3rd week of September. If Apple has a stable operating system they call System 8, which is actually System 7.7, and a CPU three times faster than anything Intel has to offer and they can't figure out how to make money except by destroying their natural allies, maybe Steve Jobs needs to rethink his business model. At the beginning of August of 1997, Apple and the entire Apple ecosystem was on the verge of the biggest sales jump in computer history. Steve Jobs changed that model and now Apple computers are going to be hard to give away. Maybe it would make more sense for Apple to go back to the table, hat in hand and figure out how everyone can win, not just Steve Jobs. The brilliant new computers which you can only buy from Steve Jobs as of next year will be much cheaper. You can save a lot of money by not including a CPU. But you won't need a CPU in your new machine since you won't be able to print on any printer from Hewlett Packard. There won't be any. As long as they are lead by Steve Jobs and maintain a longstanding cult of arrogance, Apple is dead. And it won't make the slightest difference to anyone in the Mac ecosystem. The Mac ecosystem is a lot more important and is bigger than the ego of Steve Jobs. Steve, it is dead easy for you to bet the farm, you haven't got any money on the table. But the jobs of millions of Mac lovers depend on the board waking up as soon as possible and dumping you. You're not the solution, You're the problem. And please don't whine about how people are undercutting your program by criticizing you. You screwed up, you didn't tell the truth, and you broke the faith with millions of us. And if you can't take the heat of competition, one alternative is to get out of the kitchen. Here's what the Board of Directors needs to do. (1) Send Steve Jobs back to Pixar. He's just a consultant with one share of stock which he only owns for token reasons. You need a leader with something more than a token investment in the future of the Macintosh ecosystem. (2) Drop Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison from the board. If they have some "Insanely Great" idea for network computers, they have the money to develop the concept themselves. Wish them luck and send them on their way. Let them find solutions without problems all by themselves. (3) Hire a CEO and give him responsibility. Try getting someone with a vested interest in preservation of a thriving Macintosh ecosystem. Try getting someone with some sense. (4) Sit down with the representatives of the clone makers and sign an agreement with them in accordance with all the agreements which were made over the past three years and lately rescinded by Steve Jobs. (5) Certify and allow sales of the Motorola and Power Computing machines using the G3 chip in accordance with signed and current agreements. Do it now. (6) Evaluate Apple and determine why Apple is not making money. Where you find you have problems, fix them. These may include poor quality control, a lack of direction, underpowered and obsolete design. Try talking to your customers to figure out what their needs include. It's clear you have lost touch with your customer base. (7) Tell everyone at Apple to lose their attitude of arrogance at least until Apple begins to make money again. (8) Get down on your hands and knees and pray for the forgiveness of both your suppliers and your customers. You don't have to wake up now. If the actions of Hewlett Packard and Motorola over the past week haven't at least shaken your stupor, you may want to consider the ramifications of the Chairman of Adobe Systems when it occurs to him there may be no future in betting on an Apple Computer headed by Steve Jobs. What happens to the Mac ecosystem if Adobe announces they will not develop software for Rhapsody? If it hasn't occurred to him yet, it will soon. If anyone would like to believe this comes from some disgruntled vendor with a big ax to grind, you're wrong. We sell CPU upgrades and only CPU upgrades, and the actions of Steve Jobs probably have increased our market ten-fold in the past three weeks. We are the only industry in the entire Mac ecosystem guaranteed to thrive. The fabulous new machines from Power Computing and Motorola would have been a welcome and healthy addition to the ecosystem. MacWorld called them "Best of Show" and they could only expand the Macintosh market. For crying out loud, how on earth can you lose if you have a stable and powerful operating system driven by a CPU three times faster than any Intel chip made? Especially when, in the curtains, you have waiting, a full, native code operating system, which will take full advantage of the incredible power of the Power PC CPU. Easy. All you have to do is destroy the Mac ecosystem and what Steve Jobs has pulled over the past three weeks isn't suicide, it's pure, cold-blooded murder. � this page has been accessed 7389 times ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any Jew who sees "Schindler's List" and doesn't come away wanting every Jew in the U.S. to own an assault rifle has something very wrong with him. -- Guy Norman LaFrance
Re: Open Letter to Apple Board
Author: Brian Roeten
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 00:00
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Michael*Schneider wrote: > > http://www2.maccpu.com/maccpu/letter.html > Newer Technologies > > -------------------------------------------- > An open letter to Apple's Board of Directors > > Robert J Moriarty > September 7th 1997 Michael, I truly appreciate your Open Letter to Apple Board. I've been in the wings lately on buying a PowerMac, even though my work environment is a Windows-NT PC. I've been holding out for a PPCP-based (CHRP) system. The direction Apple is taking lately, really concerns me. I think you've hit the nail on the head so many times in this letter that there is nothing left to hit. Unless a drastic turn-around of Apple market direction occurs, I'll probably succumb to the Wintel monopoly as well. Again, thanks for the effort that you've made. Brian Roeten Nortel Technology
Re: Open Letter to Apple Board
Author: Phil
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Wow.....
Re: Open Letter to Apple Board
Author: Marty Blase
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 00:00
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In article <mike1-0909970600170001@13-05.dynamic.visi.com>,
mike1@nospam.visi.com (Michael*Schneider) wrote:
> Apple is irrelevant now to the vast majority of those in the Mac
> ecosystem. Whatever stupid decisions were made last week, Mac users will
> still buy computers and resellers will still sell them. No matter if Apple
> makes computers or not. And while Steve Jobs may believe people are lining
> up to buy computers from him, I don't see any lines forming. I just hear a
> lot of people grumbling about getting screwed.
This isn't even my biggest concern, of course. It's the fact that, if
Apple ever goes under, the developers will abandon the Mac platform as
quickly as they possibly can. Meaning no new web software, no new games,
no new Photoshop or Illustrator, nothing. And I'm sure as heck not going
to use a computer if I can't buy anything to run on it.
Give Apple a break. This isn't a clubhouse you've signed up for membership
in; Apple is a business, and their job is to make money. They licensed
clones in the first place in the hopes that a greater range of choice
would increase their share of the PC market. It didn't, and Apple started
losing hardware sales as a result. (IMO, they should have separated their
hardware and software divisions years ago, but that's another debate.) So
they killed PowerComputing and CHRP, which only existed to assist
clonemakers in the first place, and absorbed PowerCC's assets in order to
improve their own hardware market. Simple business.
Apple and Jobs haven't made any bad business decisions yet, except for the
perceived effects and a dip in consumer confidence. But if these changes
actually result in higher hardware sales for Apple, their stock will go
back up anyways and people will forget about it all by next year.
Think about it a second. Which is more important to you: Apple limiting
the number of different Macs you can buy this month (were you planning on
buying a new one anyways?), or Apple actually becoming profitable again?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Marty Blase - mblase@ncsa.uiuc.edu
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Re: Open Letter to Apple Board
Author: J. E. Frank
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 00:00
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On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Marty Blase wrote: > In article <mike1-0909970600170001@13-05.dynamic.visi.com>, > mike1@nospam.visi.com (Michael*Schneider) wrote: > > Think about it a second. Which is more important to you: Apple limiting > the number of different Macs you can buy this month (were you planning on > buying a new one anyways?), or Apple actually becoming profitable again? > > Yeah, that's what I thought. Well I don't agree. I did buy a computer in the last couple of months and I bouth a Power Computing clone. Why? I got a better deal, a computer that's easier to upgrade (or it was) and good customer service. Apple wasn't doing well in hardware sales before and I really don't see that killing the clones is going to improve it. In fact I think it will drive even more people away. Unless Microsoft throughs some weight behind it's recent investment by explanding the product line they offer for mac's. Even then I think more people will move to Windows based machines as they become more like the Mac environment. I've had several die hard Mac friends already switch.
Re: Open Letter to Apple Board
Author: Michael*Schneider
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 00:00
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In article <341574CD.6C20C36@nortel.com>, Brian Roeten <roeten@nortel.com> wrote: > Michael*Schneider wrote: > > > > http://www2.maccpu.com/maccpu/letter.html > > Newer Technologies > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > An open letter to Apple's Board of Directors > > > > Robert J Moriarty > > September 7th 1997 > > Michael, > > I truly appreciate your Open Letter to Apple Board. I didn't write it; Rob did. > I've been > in the wings lately on buying a PowerMac, even though my work > environment is a Windows-NT PC. I've been holding out for a > PPCP-based (CHRP) system. The direction Apple is taking lately, > really concerns me. I think you've hit the nail on the head so > many times in this letter that there is nothing left to hit. > Unless a drastic turn-around of Apple market direction occurs, > I'll probably succumb to the Wintel monopoly as well. I just cannot believe that in the last few months, Apple computer has spent a half billion dollars buying....*nothing*. $400 million went to purchase Jobs' NeXT computer, a dead shell of a company with no assets other than the faint promise that the NeXT OS can somehow be melded into a usable next-generation operating system (after total rewrites, to be sure...), and the $100M for Power's customer base (I hope they run their factories 24-hours a day til Dec 31st, then before the stroke of midnight, load 'em all on trucks and haul 'em out in blessed secrecy). > Again, thanks for the effort that you've made. If the Mac you own is a "4-digit" model and the second number is a 5 or higher, you're in luck, because those models have upgradeable daughtercard processors, and Newer Tech makes some beastly fast ones, and the end of this month they'll be out with the G3 cards, which'll crush Intel's best offerings. I predict the used market for these Macs will BOOM. I bought a PowerTower 200e (60mhz bus) for $1400 before I saw Moriarty's analysis. Now there is *no way* I'd let the thing out of my sight for any price. Think how much it'd be worth a year from now if Apple does not dump Jobs and Motorola holds good on its vow to withold processors, while simultaneously Newer has 400-500mhz chips out on the market! Face it, man; if you're in high-end anything, you *need* Macs, and if Apple blows chunks, that just means used Macs are going to be premium until some other vender can invent and market new hardware than can match an old daughtercard Mac, Umax, or Power Tower with a Newer Tech upgrade. That could be two years or more, the way Intel is moving. (Then there's the matter of Windows, uh, *sucking*, but we do into that here....) * * * * * Gasse? Where are you man? This is your HUGE chance with BeOS to jump in and stake some turf. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any Jew who sees "Schindler's List" and doesn't come away wanting every Jew in the U.S. to own an assault rifle has something very wrong with him. -- Guy Norman LaFrance
Re: Open Letter to Apple Board
Author: Michael*Schneider
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 00:00
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In article <mblase-0909971210270001@mblase.ncsa.uiuc.edu>, mblase@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Marty Blase) wrote: > In article <mike1-0909970600170001@13-05.dynamic.visi.com>, > mike1@nospam.visi.com (Michael*Schneider) wrote: The text below is by Robert J Moriarty. > > Apple is irrelevant now to the vast majority of those in the Mac > > ecosystem. Whatever stupid decisions were made last week, Mac users will > > still buy computers and resellers will still sell them. No matter if Apple > > makes computers or not. And while Steve Jobs may believe people are lining > > up to buy computers from him, I don't see any lines forming. I just hear a > > lot of people grumbling about getting screwed. > > This isn't even my biggest concern, of course. It's the fact that, if > Apple ever goes under, the developers will abandon the Mac platform as > quickly as they possibly can. Meaning no new web software, no new games, > no new Photoshop or Illustrator, nothing. And I'm sure as heck not going > to use a computer if I can't buy anything to run on it. If you can even buy a computer! > Give Apple a break. This isn't a clubhouse you've signed up for membership > in; Apple is a business, and their job is to make money. They licensed > clones in the first place in the hopes that a greater range of choice > would increase their share of the PC market. It didn't, and Apple started > losing hardware sales as a result. (IMO, they should have separated their > hardware and software divisions years ago, but that's another debate.) So > they killed PowerComputing and CHRP, which only existed to assist > clonemakers in the first place, and absorbed PowerCC's assets in order to > improve their own hardware market. Simple business. Well, simple*minded* business.... > Apple and Jobs haven't made any bad business decisions yet, except for the Apple *bought* Jobs' NeXT, a rotting carcass, for $400 million! That wasn't a "bad business decision"? In any event, what IBM and Motorola are doing is *precisely* what is needed: by witholding processers, they are going to SQUEEZE Apple until they get rid of the swollen-headed idiots in charge, or Apple stock plunges so low that the company could be hostily taken over for a song (my preferred scenerio, because the brain-drain at Apple is far too acute by now, IMHO). I'd like to see an alliance of Motorola, IBM, and *surprise*, Bill Gates (who just bought several hundred million worth of shares) make the takeover, and put a sharp guy like John Louis Gasse in charge. > perceived effects and a dip in consumer confidence. But if these changes > actually result in higher hardware sales for Apple, their stock will go > back up anyways and people will forget about it all by next year. > > Think about it a second. Which is more important to you: Apple limiting > the number of different Macs you can buy this month (were you planning on > buying a new one anyways?), or Apple actually becoming profitable again? I'd rather buy Power Towers and put Mac OS software on them than I'd like to see no more Power Towers and Apple going out of business because Steve Jobs is such an incorrigable flaming asshole that he's managed to piss off everyone who makes Mac assessories and necessary componants. > Yeah, that's what I thought. How's Apple going to make a profit without microprocessors? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any Jew who sees "Schindler's List" and doesn't come away wanting every Jew in the U.S. to own an assault rifle has something very wrong with him. -- Guy Norman LaFrance
Re: Open Letter to Apple Board
Author: Michael*Schneider
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 00:00
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Another thing about Steve Jobs (who is at the center of this affair): His questionable ethics as highlighted by Moriaty bring up an anecdote from the early days, which I *seem* to recall reading in Guy Kawasaki's "Insanely Great" (which is an insanely great little boot, BTW, even if you don't like computers or know anything about Apple). Anyway, Jobs and Woz are partners, splittin' 50-50 back in the "garage" days, and Jobs says to Woz that he's managed to get a design or somesuch (I forget what) sold for a cool $1,000 (which is a fair chunk to a coupla youngsters back in the 70s). But Jobs is lying: he sold it for ten times that, and pockets $9500. Later, as Fuedal Lord of Apple in the early 80s, Jobs would keep his employees on their toes by approaching some unsuspecting serf and asking, "I think so-and-so's a bozo. What do you think?" Jesus..... This is the contemptable scumbag back at the helm. I don't see him having the slightest intention of making Apple a profitable company, or increasing Mac marketshare. Rather, he's a corporate raider in white-knight clothing, who's sole interest is to rape as much loot out of the company that he can. He's already suckered the hapless goofs into giving him $400 million raw cash for the extinct NeXT. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out he's spent some of that money buying huge short positions on Apple stock (he only owns *one* share, and hence has nothing personal at stake in the future of the company). Steve Jobs is a con-man. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any Jew who sees "Schindler's List" and doesn't come away wanting every Jew in the U.S. to own an assault rifle has something very wrong with him. -- Guy Norman LaFrance
Re: Open Letter to Apple Board
Author: Paul Fera
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 00:00
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[snip...several interesting observations regarding Apple's business conduct, the Mac community and Steve Jobs' character deleted] IMHO, your [interesting] observations regarding the Mac community and Apple's business conduct would carry much more weight *without* the defamation of Steve Jobs' character. I know nothing about Jobs', but pretty much all of what you've written regarding him is heresay, and not very relevant to a debate regarding what is best for the survival of the Mac community and Apple as a business. Your aggresive attack on Jobs just makes it all the more easy for people to dismiss your observations as coming from someone with "an axe to grind". Just my two cents.
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