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In article <AFE412809668A9A4@moneypit.demon.co.uk>,
robin@moneypit.demon.co.uk (Robin Jackson) wrote:

>My 6100 has suddenly stopped doing ANYTHING.
>
>A week or so ago I noticed the clock had reset to 1956...
>
>Now when I power on I not the normal Ding!!!
>
>Then NOTHING..
>
>No disk activity (hard or floppy) and no screen.
>
>Could this be a dead battery or is it something a bit more MAJOR????

Luckily for you, it looks like the clock resetting is the clue. This means
that your battery was rather dead. Now it's probably *so* dead that it
can't start the machine when you press the key. That's the drawback of not
having a physical Big Red Switch.

Changing the battery should fix it. 

-- 
Peter

robin@moneypit.demon.co.uk (Robin Jackson) wrote:
>Help please...
>
>My 6100 has suddenly stopped doing ANYTHING.
>
>A week or so ago I noticed the clock had reset to 1956...
>
>Now when I power on I not the normal Ding!!!
>
>Then NOTHING..
>
>No disk activity (hard or floppy) and no screen.
>
>Could this be a dead battery or is it something a bit more MAJOR????

You will find more info about how to change your logic
board battery at: http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh.
The batteries cost about $10-15 in the US.

Cathy

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In article <AFE412809668A9A4@moneypit.demon.co.uk>,
robin@moneypit.demon.co.uk (Robin Jackson) wrote:

>Help please...
>
>My 6100 has suddenly stopped doing ANYTHING.
>
>A week or so ago I noticed the clock had reset to 1956...
>
>Now when I power on I not the normal Ding!!!
>
>Then NOTHING..
>
>No disk activity (hard or floppy) and no screen.
>
>Could this be a dead battery or is it something a bit more MAJOR????
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Robin

Absolutely the battery.  Your symptoms are normal for the 6100. Battery is
$9.95 at Radio Shack and very easy to change.

Paul

Peter Ceresole wrote:

> In article <AFE412809668A9A4@moneypit.demon.co.uk>,
> robin@moneypit.demon.co.uk (Robin Jackson) wrote:
>
> >My 6100 has suddenly stopped doing ANYTHING.
> >
> >A week or so ago I noticed the clock had reset to 1956...
> >
> >Now when I power on I not the normal Ding!!!
> >
> >Then NOTHING..
> >
> >No disk activity (hard or floppy) and no screen.
> >
> >Could this be a dead battery or is it something a bit more MAJOR????
>
> Luckily for you, it looks like the clock resetting is the clue. This
> means
> that your battery was rather dead. Now it's probably *so* dead that it
>
> can't start the machine when you press the key. That's the drawback of
> not
> having a physical Big Red Switch.
>
> Changing the battery should fix it.

Unfortunately, the 6100 does have a physical 'Big Red Switch' :-), so a
dead battery shouldn't stop it starting (at least it should display
_something_ on the monitor).

Best take your Mac to a service centre.

Steve
 
 

In article <33BED90E.B984E592@s054.aone.net.au>,
Stephen Finlay <sfinlay@s054.aone.net.au> wrote:

>Unfortunately, the 6100 does have a physical 'Big Red Switch' :-), so a
>dead battery shouldn't stop it starting (at least it should display
>_something_ on the monitor).

This is wrong; on a 6100, as I said, a totally dead battery will prevent it
from starting up at all and the monitor too will remain dead (it needs
output from the computer to switch on).

So changing the battery should do it.

-- 
Peter

No, DON'T take it to a service center..... just change the battery. The
"1956" syndrome is a dead-ringer for a dead battery. These batteries
last only about 2 years +/-, so it should be about "due"

Go to any Radio Shack and buy part number 23-026, price $10. Pull the
plastic cover off the battery (don't worry if it breaks, it's just "for
show"), pull out the old battery, and put the new one in. Then reboot.

I'll bet you're pleasantly surprised!

- John

Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <33BED90E.B984E592@s054.aone.net.au>,
> Stephen Finlay <sfinlay@s054.aone.net.au> wrote:
> 
> >Unfortunately, the 6100 does have a physical 'Big Red Switch' :-), so a
> >dead battery shouldn't stop it starting (at least it should display
> >_something_ on the monitor).
> 
> This is wrong; on a 6100, as I said, a totally dead battery will prevent it
> from starting up at all and the monitor too will remain dead (it needs
> output from the computer to switch on).

This parallels my experience.  A dying PRAM batter caused quirky
start-ups on my 6100.  When it died, so did the 6100:  No startup chime,
no starting from any attached drive (internal, external, CD, MO, or
floppy), nada.  Replacing that puppy will save you a lot of $ at the
repair shop.

-- 
Aloha,
Scott

John Albert <jalbert@mail1.nai.net> wrote:

> No, DON'T take it to a service center..... just change the battery. The
> "1956" syndrome is a dead-ringer for a dead battery. These batteries
> last only about 2 years +/-, so it should be about "due"
> 
> Go to any Radio Shack and buy part number 23-026, price $10. 

Interesting suggestion given that the questioner was posting from a .uk
address.  I think his nearest Radio Shack is 5000 miles away...

Rowland.


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Stephen Finlay <sfinlay@s054.aone.net.au> wrote:

[snip]
> 
> Unfortunately, the 6100 does have a physical 'Big Red Switch' :-), 

My Performa 475 has a physical Big Red Switch too, and a dead battery
can prevent it from starting up.  Why not a 6100?

> so a
> dead battery shouldn't stop it starting (at least it should display
> _something_ on the monitor).
> 
> Best take your Mac to a service centre.

Given that the original questioner noted that he'd seen the famous 1956
date reset, this does suggest that a dead battery is the problem.

Rowland.



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Robin Jackson <robin@moneypit.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Help please...
> 
> My 6100 has suddenly stopped doing ANYTHING.
> 
> A week or so ago I noticed the clock had reset to 1956...
> 
> Now when I power on I not the normal Ding!!!
> 
> Then NOTHING..
> 
> No disk activity (hard or floppy) and no screen.
> 
> Could this be a dead battery or is it something a bit more MAJOR????
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Robin

It's almost certainly the battery, and RS components sell them
for about 5 pounds. RS have trade counters in some towns so start
looking in the yellow pages
-- 
'ric

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In article <199707071357325416452@p39.ascend2.is2.u-net.net>,
real-address-in-sig@astrid.u-net.com (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:

> John Albert <jalbert@mail1.nai.net> wrote:
> 
> > No, DON'T take it to a service center..... just change the battery. The
> > "1956" syndrome is a dead-ringer for a dead battery. These batteries
> > last only about 2 years +/-, so it should be about "due"
> > 
> > Go to any Radio Shack and buy part number 23-026, price $10. 
> 
> Interesting suggestion given that the questioner was posting from a .uk
> address.  I think his nearest Radio Shack is 5000 miles away...
> 
> Rowland.

Actually there are 516 such outlets in the UK, called "Tandy;"  Tandy spun
off its UK/Canadian/Australian Radio Shack type operations into InterTAN,
Inc. a while back.

adl

In article <AFE51FC1966874AC3@cara.demon.co.uk>,
peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:

> This is wrong; on a 6100, as I said, a totally dead battery will prevent it
> from starting up at all and the monitor too will remain dead (it needs
> output from the computer to switch on).
> 
> So changing the battery should do it.

Until you do, try this trick: Leave it on for a minute, then press the 
force restart sequence - command-control-power. 

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>> No, DON'T take it to a service center..... just change the battery. The
>> "1956" syndrome is a dead-ringer for a dead battery. These batteries
>> last only about 2 years +/-, so it should be about "due"
>> 
>> Go to any Radio Shack and buy part number 23-026, price $10. 
>
>Interesting suggestion given that the questioner was posting from a .uk
>address.  I think his nearest Radio Shack is 5000 miles away...

My thanks to everyone who replied and emailed me.

I managed to locate a battery and once again my 6100 is working again....

Regarding Radio Shack, here in the UK it s called Tandy BUT they don't
stock the battery.

Once again many thanks.

Robin

In article <199707071357325416452@p39.ascend2.is2.u-net.net>,
real-address-in-sig@astrid.u-net.com (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:
>John Albert <jalbert@mail1.nai.net> wrote:
>> Go to any Radio Shack and buy part number 23-026, price $10. 
>
>Interesting suggestion given that the questioner was posting from a .uk
>address.  I think his nearest Radio Shack is 5000 miles away...

Actually, I live in the UK, and my nearest Radio Shack is within walking
distance. (OK, so it's called Tandy over here - same company.) Then again,
they probably don't stock that part, and it'll cost �10 if they do. But
I've got an early 6100, so I suppose I'll have to find out for myself
shortly.

Paul Durrant

Paul Durrant <pdurrant@durrant.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <199707071357325416452@p39.ascend2.is2.u-net.net>,
> real-address-in-sig@astrid.u-net.com (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:
> >John Albert <jalbert@mail1.nai.net> wrote:
> >> Go to any Radio Shack and buy part number 23-026, price $10. 
> >
> >Interesting suggestion given that the questioner was posting from a .uk
> >address.  I think his nearest Radio Shack is 5000 miles away...
> 
> Actually, I live in the UK, and my nearest Radio Shack is within walking
> distance. (OK, so it's called Tandy over here - same company.) Then again,
> they probably don't stock that part, and it'll cost �10 if they do. But
> I've got an early 6100, so I suppose I'll have to find out for myself
> shortly.

I live in the UK, and I know about the firm that runs Radio Shack shops
in the USA running shops called Tandy here.  I also know they don't
stock anything useful like lithium batteries for Macs - I've looked.
Maplin is a better bet, but there's fewer Maplin shops around.

Rowland.



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Robin Jackson wrote:

> Help please...
> 
> My 6100 has suddenly stopped doing ANYTHING.
> A week or so ago I noticed the clock had reset to 1956...
> Now when I power on I not the normal Ding!!!
> Then NOTHING..
> No disk activity (hard or floppy) and no screen.
> Could this be a dead battery or is it something a bit more MAJOR????
> Any help would be appreciated.

The PRAM battery inside is dead. Replacing it is fairly easy, and you
can probably get one for about $7.

Is it my imagination, or are there a *lot* of 6100 PRAM batterys dying
this week? I had to replace mine a couple of days ago...


Pete

Peter Spomer wrote:
> 
> Robin Jackson wrote:
> 
> > Help please...
> >
> > My 6100 has suddenly stopped doing ANYTHING.
> > A week or so ago I noticed the clock had reset to 1956...
> > Now when I power on I not the normal Ding!!!
> > Then NOTHING..
> > No disk activity (hard or floppy) and no screen.
> > Could this be a dead battery or is it something a bit more MAJOR????
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> The PRAM battery inside is dead. Replacing it is fairly easy, and you
> can probably get one for about $7.
> 
> Is it my imagination, or are there a *lot* of 6100 PRAM batterys dying
> this week? I had to replace mine a couple of days ago...
> 
> Pete

well, they are about the same age!  At my school, I have been slowly
having to replace the LCIII batteries, as well as the ones in some
donated 486's!

In article <33C3D20F.BA@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>,
Peter Spomer <pjsa0@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> wrote:

>Is it my imagination, or are there a *lot* of 6100 PRAM batterys dying
>this week? I had to replace mine a couple of days ago...

Might it be the time running out on a whole lot of them bought around the
same time? After all, the 6100 was a lively seller early on.

-- 
Peter

Abe D. Lockman <lockman@erols.com> wrote:

> In article <199707071357325416452@p39.ascend2.is2.u-net.net>,
> real-address-in-sig@astrid.u-net.com (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:
> 
> > John Albert <jalbert@mail1.nai.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > No, DON'T take it to a service center..... just change the battery. The
> > > "1956" syndrome is a dead-ringer for a dead battery. These batteries
> > > last only about 2 years +/-, so it should be about "due"
> > > 
> > > Go to any Radio Shack and buy part number 23-026, price $10. 
> > 
> > Interesting suggestion given that the questioner was posting from a .uk
> > address.  I think his nearest Radio Shack is 5000 miles away...
> > 
> > Rowland.
> 
> Actually there are 516 such outlets in the UK, called "Tandy;"  Tandy spun
> off its UK/Canadian/Australian Radio Shack type operations into InterTAN,
> Inc. a while back.
> 

Tandy and Radio Shack are very different types of shop - you can't buy
batteries for Macs in Tandy shops in the UK.  Maplin's a better bet.

Rowland.


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Peter Ceresole wrote:
> 
> In article <33C3D20F.BA@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>,
> Peter Spomer <pjsa0@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> wrote:
> 
> >Is it my imagination, or are there a *lot* of 6100 PRAM batterys dying
> >this week? I had to replace mine a couple of days ago...
> 
> Might it be the time running out on a whole lot of them bought around the
> same time? After all, the 6100 was a lively seller early on.


Add me to the "list"! :-)
 
                   
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_____________________________________

Rui Alves Pinto wrote:
> 
> Peter Ceresole wrote:
> >
> > In article <33C3D20F.BA@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>,
> > Peter Spomer <pjsa0@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Is it my imagination, or are there a *lot* of 6100 PRAM batterys dying
> > >this week? I had to replace mine a couple of days ago...
> >
> > Might it be the time running out on a whole lot of them bought around the
> > same time? After all, the 6100 was a lively seller early on.

I sold my 6100/60 to a friend of mine about a year ago, and he realized 
last week that the  battery was gone too. :-)

regards
Jaime Fischer
jfischer@cmet.net

In article <33CD76BC.1646@cmet.net>, jfischer@cmet.net wrote:

> Rui Alves Pinto wrote:
> > 
> > Peter Ceresole wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <33C3D20F.BA@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>,
> > > Peter Spomer <pjsa0@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Is it my imagination, or are there a *lot* of 6100 PRAM batterys dying
> > > >this week? I had to replace mine a couple of days ago...
> > >
> > > Might it be the time running out on a whole lot of them bought around the
> > > same time? After all, the 6100 was a lively seller early on.
> 
> I sold my 6100/60 to a friend of mine about a year ago, and he realized 
> last week that the  battery was gone too. :-)
> 
> regards
> Jaime Fischer
> jfischer@cmet.net

Mine died last friday.

On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Jaime Fischer Camadro wrote:

> Rui Alves Pinto wrote:
> > 
> > Peter Ceresole wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <33C3D20F.BA@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>,
> > > Peter Spomer <pjsa0@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Is it my imagination, or are there a *lot* of 6100 PRAM batterys dying
> > > >this week? I had to replace mine a couple of days ago...
> > >
> > > Might it be the time running out on a whole lot of them bought around the
> > > same time? After all, the 6100 was a lively seller early on.
> 
> I sold my 6100/60 to a friend of mine about a year ago, and he realized 
> last week that the  battery was gone too. :-)


Mine just started doing something funny:  The hard drive thinks it has
about 30Mg more on it than it really does.  Could this be related?
It started after I upped to 7.6 from 7.5.3.

Michael

Mark Basinski wrote:
> 
> In article <33CD76BC.1646@cmet.net>, jfischer@cmet.net wrote:
> 
> > Rui Alves Pinto wrote:
> > >
> > > Peter Ceresole wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <33C3D20F.BA@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>,
> > > > Peter Spomer <pjsa0@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Is it my imagination, or are there a *lot* of 6100 PRAM batterys dying
> > > > >this week? I had to replace mine a couple of days ago...
> > > >
> > > > Might it be the time running out on a whole lot of them bought around the
> > > > same time? After all, the 6100 was a lively seller early on.
> >
> > I sold my 6100/60 to a friend of mine about a year ago, and he realized
> > last week that the  battery was gone too. :-)
> >
> > regards
> > Jaime Fischer
> > jfischer@cmet.net
> 
> Mine died last friday.

well, hey...they are about the same age!

> > I sold my 6100/60 to a friend of mine about a year ago, and he realized 
> > last week that the  battery was gone too. :-)


My 840's battery died this week too, and it cost 10 ukp from the local
AppleCentre (I fitted it myself) - daylight robbery!

Jonathan.

Robin Jackson wrote:
> 
> Help please...
> 
> My 6100 has suddenly stopped doing ANYTHING.
> 
> A week or so ago I noticed the clock had reset to 1956...
> 
> Now when I power on I not the normal Ding!!!
> 
> Then NOTHING..
> 
> No disk activity (hard or floppy) and no screen.
> 
> Could this be a dead battery or is it something a bit more MAJOR????
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Robin


You may not have been seeing the various posts but it seems that alot of
6100's have been dying lately due to the battery.

So I would recommend that you replace the battery before taking it to
the shop. This will probably fix the problem and save you the service
fee that any shop would charge just to change a battery.

Good luck,

David Castro