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Article #61Re: Powered-down IBM drive hangs bus
From: Joerg Erdei
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 08:57
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 08:57
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matthews@rainbow.rmii.com (Don Matthews) wrote: >Joerg Erdei (a8101gbb@vm.univie.ac.at) wrote: >: ralphs@tesser.com (Ralph Shnelvar) wrote: >: >My guess is that your drive is supplying termination -power- (not just >: >termination resistance) and by powering down the device you are >: >causing a power fluctuation. >: > >: Nearby all todays SCSI devices provide termination power to the bus, >: at least all of mine do. This should not do any harm to the bus, as >: long as it is done according to the SCSI specification. I wonder if >: that is a more common problem, for till now I've never heard of this. > >: Joerg Erdei > >I think both you and Ralph are on the right track. I'll bet all the problems >described in this thread could be traced to the *source* of terminator power. >It is true that most devices supply power. And, in fact, the SCSI-2 spec >states that it is mandatory for initiators to supply it and optional for >targets to supply it. Yet, responsible target manufacturers do it anyway. > >But what happens in the field is this ... all suppliers of terminator power >have a fuse, and this fuse can easily be blown, especially if hot-plugging >is involved (so I've heard, although it's never happened to me). But the >fuse can blow even if you're not hot-plugging. It could turn out that in >each of the problematic systems, term power was only being supplied by the >device that is later being powered down, and that could explain why the bus >doesn't then function. > >Best Regards, >Don Matthews > If it is that way, the easiest solution is to get SCSI Sentry II from APS. It is not only an excelent active terminator, it also provides termination power through a seperat power supply, so it does not matter wich drive is does or does not provide termination power. Joerg Erdei I am not related to APS in any way. I am just a satisfied user of their terminators and cables.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!news.univie.ac.at!news-admin@univie.ac.at From: Joerg Erdei <a8101gbb@vm.univie.ac.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: Powered-down IBM drive hangs bus Date: 24 Nov 1995 08:57:05 GMT Organization: Molecular Cell-Biology, University of Vienna Message-ID: <4941d1$j1e@ftp.univie.ac.at> References: <48vi2f$k3b@hppadbk.waterloo.hp.com> <491kla$2ar@rzunews.unizh.ch> <491ulg$4p0@meg.tesser.com> <4926gu$1382@ftp.univie.ac.at> <492fhe$6eo@natasha.rmii.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: macquadra-cbl-5024.abc.univie.ac.at Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K) X-URL: news:492fhe$6eo@natasha.rmii.com