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Re: Powered-down IBM drive hangs bus

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From: Dave Platt
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:51
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>It is recommended that SCSI devices with power off also meet the
>bus loading characteristics required of devices which are powered.
>
>However, I know from my own experience that some early drives did
>not conform to this.

My recollection is that the original SCSI standard specifically forbade
having powered-down devices connected to an active bus.  Devices were
not required (or recommended) to be able to present a benign load on the
bus if powered down.

Quite a few early SCSI devices implement a form of bus overvoltage
protection for their transceivers - they tie the incoming bus signal
lines to their +5 supply via a clamp diode.  If devices of this nature
are powered off, their +5 supply sinks down to ground, and the clamp
diodes clamp the signal lines to ground.  The bus hangs.

The SCSI-2 specification does permit powered-off devices to be connected
to a bus, and devices which meet SCSI-2 must not clamp the bus if
powered off.

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Dave Platt    dplatt@3do.com
      USNAIL: The 3DO Company, Systems Software group
              600 Galveston Drive
              Redwood City, CA  94063
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Subject: Re: Powered-down IBM drive hangs bus
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