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Peter,
 
>Actually, I am old enough to remember both Microsoft and Borland producing
>tools for Macintosh development.
 
I think it takes a great leap of the imagination to consider Microsoft's
entries as *development tools*.  QuickBASIC != QuickC | C version 5.x.
Borland's implementation of TurboPascal was fairly popular among many of my
friends in its day.  But, it was almost abandoned from the beginning by
Borland.  Was it ever a *development tool*?  Where is TurboC++?  What about
it's class library?  What about debuggers?  Where are the real _TOOLS_.
 
>Just to really throw sand back at you, Symantec (actually, Think) is probably
>more commonly used than Apple's tools.
 
So?
 
>I am not sure where you are coming from with your "disagreements." And I don't
>see the anti-trust issues. I do see some foolishness, though.
 
The only thing I disagree with is this statement:
 
>I just wonder why Apple doesn't put EVERYTHING into a subscription service
>(e.g. a high-end Partner program) and COMMIT to making everything available
>there. I don't understand why Apple doesn't see this in their interest. To m
ake
>themselves dependent upon third parties for the development tools is rather
>foolish in my opinion. Why did they do MacApp to begin with?!
 
Why?  I think it's time that Apple started backing off. I think its time to
let other developers besides Symantec into the fray.  I don't think it's
foolish for Apple to allow others to become part of a "total solution" for
the developer.  That so called "dependance" can also be called
"opportunity" for third parties.  Third party success in a stagnant market
such as development tools is necessary for Apple to develop market share.
For the small amount they're giving up, they are creating valuable
opportunities for third parties.
 
 
>Finally, regarding your last comment - "People need to stop complaining about
>what Apple doesn't do, and simply do it themselves" - you CANNOT possibly mean
>that all of us need to go out and write our own quirky class libraries and
>development tools...?!
>
No I don't.  I meant the developer community as a whole producing tools for
itself, rather than waiting for Apple to get around to it for them.
 
 
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