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Article #278ETO Griping, Not Real issue
From: Michael D. Rossetti
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:37
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:37
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ETO & MacApp Friends, I think ETO has been a good value and I like the MPW environment very much. I really don't think there's better development environment around. Certainly not in the PC/Windows world. The integration of tools is as good as can be found in UNIX. New tools are easy to incorporate. The scripting beats anything else I've ever seen and I, personally, would never use Component Workshop if it took away my MPW scripting. (I would like to see AppleScript built into development products as soon as possible, though; which, if Component Workshop supported, might actually reduce the need for MPW.) SADE is scriptable, too, and after one figures out how it works it becomes a mighty fine tool. Blah. Blah. ETO, as a subscription service is a good deal; a little steep on the sign-up side but very reasonable on the annual fee. Who else provides such a plethora of choices and tools? Not Borland, Microsoft or Symantec. Why their early developer programs for just one new technology usually costs as much as the annual ETO subscription fee. Of course we are all anxious about the upcoming changes in the development tools vis-a-vis Bedrock, PowerPC, Newton, etc. None of us know whether these environments are going to be supported by ETO and a statement from Apple clarifying the situation would be nice. In lieu of such a commitment it is human nature to expect the worst. What's the worst? "Apple announces a new or several new ETO-like programs for each intended environment the cost of which will likely put the opportunity to develop for any or all environments out of range. And! None of the environments are consistent with each other." And I believe it's true that there's trouble in River City. I have personal knowledge that this uncertainty has caused a number of Macintosh developers to switch their efforts to Windows. Apple used to be renown for their open communication with developers; they knew developers were key to their success. I'm beginning to wonder if they understand how important their developers still are. So what's my point? It's not ETO that's flawed. It's the whole Apple 'thing' that's in question. When will we know what to really expect? Probably not before the WWDC in May. I urge those who care to go to the various feedback sessions with some emphasis on the very last session of the conference: "Fry the VPs" and make specific comments and ask direct questions. These are my personal opinions only. Michael D. Rossetti Internet: mikey@wicat.com Jostens Learning Corporation AppleLink: WICAT WICAT Division CompuServe: 71102,475 1875 South State Street America OnLine: ROSSETTI Orem, Utah 84059-0539 USA (801) 223-3285
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!pacbell.com!ames!olivea!spool.mu.edu!sgiblab!spies!wicat!nuntius From: mikey@wicat.com (Michael D. Rossetti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: ETO Griping, Not Real issue Message-ID: <1993Jan12.153712.19994@wicat.com> Date: 12 Jan 93 15:37:12 GMT Sender: news@wicat.com Organization: Jostens Learning Corporation Lines: 52 X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1