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Started by Marcus Wilhoit
Thu, 07 Jan 1993 18:47
Total Chaos
Author: Marcus Wilhoit
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 18:47
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 18:47
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What in the World is going on? It seems to me that Apple will just become a software company with the advent of the Power PC. Nothing makes any sense? What will be the difference between a PowerPC made by IBM as opposed to one made by Apple? Multi- platform should be multi-GUI either windows or MacOS, the platform will pretty much be the same (the Power PC). NeXT and other companies are also looking at the Power PC chip. Is everyone going with one really fast platform in which the will use something like Bedrock for writting applications? What is the Power PC anyway? It is supposed to run AIX, Macintosh, AUX, Power-Open (AIX union AUX). Why? Where does Apple Computer fit in? The Lawyers must love the contract disputes. Ok, Maybe is not Vaporware? Hmmmm. I am a die-hard MAC person and I was thinking about upgrading to 16MB RAM so I could take full advantage of MacApp 3.0. With the death of MacApp 3.0 I think I will just stick with virtual memory and finish the MacApp Turtorial. I guess the computer-software industry is going through some type of transfomation. I may be wrong, but after we make sense of it all a few companies we know and love now are not going to be here. The IBM & Apple "Technological Alliance" seems more like a Merger to me with a trick to keep the government from calling it a Monopoly. Please someone help me see the light! If there is one?
Re: Total Chaos
Author: Kent Sandvik
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 00:10
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 00:10
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In article <17835@umd5.umd.edu>, aides@hamlet.umd.edu (Marcus Wilhoit) wrote: > > > What in the World is going on? It seems to me that Apple will just > become a software > company with the advent of the Power PC. Nothing makes any sense? What > will be the > difference between a PowerPC made by IBM as opposed to one made by Apple? > Multi- > platform should be multi-GUI either windows or MacOS, the platform will > pretty much > be the same (the Power PC). NeXT and other companies are also looking at > the Power PC chip. Is everyone going with one really fast platform in > which the will use something like Bedrock for writting applications? Hi, things are not that messy, it's just that we don't want to talk about products before they are really shipping. Talking about unannounced products will just make the situation more messy. The PowerPC chip will be used for personal, office level computers by Apple, and in high end workstations by IBM. This is a nice and clear separation, and it's actually a win-win situation for both parts. PowerOpen is for the 'Open Systems People', while MacOS for PowerPC is for the rest of us :-). Another win-win, if you think open systems is the way to go, go for PowerOpen. If you like the MacOS environment, you got it. I've been involved in this project for eight months now, and even if I'm leaving it due to a new challenge, I must say that things are really under control and something wonderful will happen soon. Cheers, Kent ------------------- Kent Sandvik (UUCP: ....!apple!ksand; INTERNET: ksand@apple.com) DISCLAIMER: Private activities on the Net. Predictions: Soon moving to Newton DTS, bye bye.
Re: Total Chaos
Author: John Nagle
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 18:35
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 18:35
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ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik ) writes:
>The PowerPC chip will be used for personal, office level computers by
>Apple, and in high end workstations by IBM. This is a nice and clear
>separation, and it's actually a win-win situation for both parts.
There is no such 'clear separation'. Sun workstations now start
at prices well below high-end Macs. If there is a real separation in
future, it's going to be between portables and desktop machines.
It's a classic IBM ploy to try to make such distinctions stick by
marketing means and by crippling the low-end machines. When I hear something
like the above, I expect to see "low end" machines crippled by limited
expansion capability.
>PowerOpen is for the 'Open Systems People', while MacOS for PowerPC
>is for the rest of us :-). Another win-win, if you think open systems
>is the way to go, go for PowerOpen. If you like the MacOS environment,
>you got it.
Using software emulation. Right. As Kent has previously admitted,
the new machines will run the Mac OS in a software emulator, something like
Soft PC, and the "real PowerPC environment" will have a different
API and GUI. Sounds like A/UX.
It's sad. If Apple had come out with a protected-mode MacOS with
multiprocessor support (difficult, but possible) kicked Motorola into
building faster M68xxx CPUs and saturated the educational market with
low-end Macs equipped with built-in CD-ROM drives, Apple could have
retained its leadership position. But, with top management choosing a
"strategic alliance" with IBM, a classic tar pit, as Apple's future, one can
only expect decline.
John Nagle
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