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Article #2Re: Summary: I'm faint! I just saw the price for MPW!
From: John Nagle
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:07
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:07
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lsr@taligent.com (Larry Rosenstein) writes:
>In article <1992Dec20.200609.15692@netcom.com>, nagle@netcom.com (John
>Nagle) wrote:
>>
>> It's also worth noting that if you use MacApp, your source code may
>> be "contaminated" with Apple code, and you may have legal difficulties
>Can you cite a part of the MacApp license agreement that might lead to
>problems? I don't know of any clause that would contaminate your source
>code. While it may say that you cannot port MacApp to another platform,
>you are always free to take your source code and port that.
The Developer CD Series volume II (which its literature
says contains sample code) comes with the statement "The Software and Manuals
contain copyrighted material, trade secrets and other proprietary material
and in order to protect them you may not decompile, reverse engineer,
disassemble, or otherwise reduce the Software to a human-perceivable form.
You may not modify, network, rent, lease, loan, sell, distribute, or create
derivative works based upon the Software in whole or in part..."
(from paragraph 2, "Restrictions")
Note that this is on a CD that contains sample code which Apple
encouraged you to copy into your own programs.
I dropped out of Apple's Certified Developer Program in 1990, so
I'm not up to date on current terms. But at least back then, these
things came with language sufficiently overreaching that avoiding
contamination with Apple intellectual property would be difficult.
This gives Apple some leverage if you later port something that might
contain some sample code to another platform.
It's scary having sample code around with that kind of restrictive
language attached. And destroying the CD, as required to terminate the
agreement under Paragraph 3 of its licence agreement, is a real pain.
Trying to break a CD in half by hand is dangerous. I finally had to use
a heavy-duty paper punch.
I think Apple has become more reasonable since 1990, but I haven't
checked. I don't use MacApp.
John Nagle
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.oop.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!nagle From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle) Subject: Re: Summary: I'm faint! I just saw the price for MPW! Message-ID: <1992Dec22.070755.13175@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <01050133.ksdp2c@distant.uucp> <1992Dec11.195344.10218@reed.edu> <1992Dec11.155851.14862@walter.cray.com> <1gb6n9INNpmk@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1992Dec16.132756.20642@gssec.bt.co.uk> <lsr-181292122440@lsr.taligent.com> <1992Dec19.000239.11451@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> <keithley-181292171536@kip2-37.apple.com> <keithley-191292132933@kip2-37.apple.com> <1992Dec20.200609.15692@netcom.com> <lsr-211292101905@lsr.taligent.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:07:55 GMT Lines: 40