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Article #5Re: Summary: I'm faint! I just saw the price for MPW!
From: Kent Sandvik
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:39
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:39
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Organization: Apple Computer Inc. Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.oop.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer Organization: (Evil Eye Creature from Mars, Inc.) In article <lsr-221292105437@lsr.taligent.com>, lsr@taligent.com (Larry Rosenstein) wrote: > In article <1992Dec22.070755.13175@netcom.com>, nagle@netcom.com (John > Nagle) wrote: > > and in order to protect them you may not decompile, reverse engineer, > > disassemble, or otherwise reduce the Software to a human-perceivable form. > > I don't have any CDs around to see what the situation is today. I do know > that MacApp is not on the Developer CD. And the versions of the MacApp > license that I've seen doesn't place any of those restrictions. > Also, all the Tech Notes and DTS Sample Code I've seen has carried an > explict statement that you can use this and distribute it, provided you do > not sell it. Here's the vital part concerning restrictions of Dev. CD use, in the TeachText file up in the left corner: 2. RESTRICTIONS. The Software and Materials contain copyrighted material, trade secrets and other proprietary material and in order to protect them you may not decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble or otherwise reduce the Software and Materials to a human-perceivable form. You may not modify, rent, lease, loan, distribute or create derivative works based upon the Software and Materials in whole or in part. You may make only as many copies of the Software and Materials as are reasonably necessary to effectuate the permitted uses of the Software and Materials as stated in Section 1. However, with one exception, you may use, copy, modify and incorporate into your own programs the Software and Materials found in the develop folder within the Periodicals folder, provided you reproduce on each copy the Apple copyright notice and any other proprietary legends that were on the original copy of the Software. The exception to this is the Software and Materials for The NetWork Project article in Issue 11 of develop, which are copyright 1989-1992 The NetWork Project, StatLab Heidelberg and are for personal, noncommercial use only. As Larry stated, you could use, copy, modify and incorporate into your application sample code from the develop folder. I agree that the statement does not clearly state that the snippets also belong to this category, but this is the case as well. So I will talk with the people downstairs making sure that this is also included to the license in future. As for MacApp, as I know we don't place any restrictions on people extending the framework, but we want to control who is porting over the whole framework to another platform, and we could make a deal concerning this as well, so it's not totally verboten. All in all, I do think we are overstating the issue, really. If someone really believes that we are sending out lawyers if they copy in code from DTS.Lib, then I'm afraid we live in a scary society. Kent ------------------- Kent Sandvik (UUCP: ....!apple!ksand; INTERNET: ksand@apple.com) DISCLAIMER: Private activities on the Net. "Don't just do something! Stand there!" -- Mystery Science Theater 3000
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!olivea!apple!goofy!mumbo.apple.com!gallant.apple.com!wintermute.apple.com!user From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.oop.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: Summary: I'm faint! I just saw the price for MPW! Message-ID: <ksand-221292163512@wintermute.apple.com> Date: 23 Dec 92 00:39:58 GMT References: <01050133.ksdp2c@distant.uucp> <1992Dec11.195344.10218@reed.edu> <1992Dec11.155851.14862@walter.cray.com> <1gb6n9INNpmk@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1992Dec16.132756.20642@gssec.bt.co.uk> <lsr-181292122440@lsr.taligent.com> <1992Dec19.000239.1145 Sender: news@gallant.apple.com Lines: 62