Re: Summary: I'm faint! I just saw the price for MPW!

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2 total messages Started by Larry Rosenstein Wed, 23 Dec 1992 07:43

#115

Author: Larry Rosenstein
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 07:43

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In article <1992Dec22.070755.13175@netcom.com>, nagle@netcom.com (John
Nagle) wrote:
> 
> and in order to protect them you may not decompile, reverse engineer, 
> disassemble, or otherwise reduce the Software to a human-perceivable form.

I don't have any CDs around to see what the situation is today.  I do know
that MacApp is not on the Developer CD.  And the versions of the MacApp
license that I've seen doesn't place any of those restrictions.

Also, all the Tech Notes and DTS Sample Code I've seen has carried an
explict statement that you can use this and distribute it, provided you do
not sell it.

Larry Rosenstein
Taligent, Inc.

lsr@taligent.com


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Subject: Re: Summary: I'm faint! I just saw the price for MPW!
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Re: Summary: I'm faint! I just saw the price for MPW!

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Author: Tonio Loewald
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 07:14

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The most onerous part of the MacApp licence agreement is that Apple
reserves the right to say "your MacApp program is not compatible,
fix it with such and such a period or take it off the market" as
part of the agreement. (This is my wording and interpretation, okay?)

In theory this means that Apple could hurt a developer that relied 
on MacApp very badly (and then get sued for acting in bad faith, etc.)

As for the good old "you may not reverse engineer this" clause, it's
a crock. Most software engineers will reverse engineer stuff in their
head as soon as they see it run. And in any case, Borland, Symantec,
and just about everyone else don't have to reverse engineer MacApp. 
They can pay Apple for a copy of the source and then rip it off to
their heart's content -- which is exactly what they appear to have
done.

Tonio Loewald

-- 
Tonio Loewald | tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au | Life is short. Be nice.
"You can lie/You can cry/For all the good it'll do you, you can
die/But when it's done/And the police come/And they lay you down
for dead/Just remember what I said" (Paul Simon-not the senator)

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