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Article #54Re: Appearence Demo vs OSX
From: Richard Wesley
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:33
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:33
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In article <meleuwal-404F9A.14461721032001@news.xmission.com>,
Mel Walker <meleuwal@starSP0MtrekSP0Mmail.com> wrote:
> In article <hawkfish-E914D1.08360420032001@brokaw.wa.com>,
> Richard Wesley <hawkfish@electricfish.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article <hawkfish-BA6D2F.09175619032001@brokaw.wa.com>,
> > > Richard Wesley <hawkfish@electricfish.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > - The background lines at the edge of the dialog are not in line with
> > > > the rest of the dialog;
> [...]>
> > According to the Carbon Dev mailing list:
> >
> > - This is a bug in Aqua caused by the background pattern not taking the
> > origin into account;
>
> Actually, it seems that the problem is that the pattern actually *does*
> takes the origin into account, not that it doesn't. *The programmer*
> hasn't taken the origin into account, because on OS 9 the backgrounds
> are generally just white (or gray), and not patterned like OS X.
See below.
> > - Apple refuses to fix the problem;
>
> ....'cause it's not a problem, it's always been that way, and QuickDraw
> is *designed* to do it that way, but it never shows up in windows that
> don't erase to a pattern....
Someone at Apple explained this to me. I don't quite buy it (as I feel
that this background is not part of the end user API, but I am more
resigned to their viewpoint now.
> > - A number of frameworks besides PowerPlant have the same problem;
>
> Anything that expects a pattern's starting point not to change if the
> origin of the GrafPort changed would have this problem.
Exactly, and this is a technique used by a number of application
frameworks, not just PP.
> > - The only real workaround is to intercept the EraseRect and EraseRgn
> > bottlenecks and fix the origin before calling StdXXX;
>
> Why not just modify the PP files that do the erasing? Or would that
> include too many files?
Bingo. I can fix the bottlenecks in my dialog base class and be done
with it. (Hopefully - I still haven't tried it.)
> In any event, I expect that's a solution for a
> small application only, though. A PowerPlant fix is in order.
Indeed.
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- rmgw
http://www.electricfish.com/hawkfish/
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