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Ron et al -

I want you to know that I am going to upgrade both the Windows and Mac
CodeWarrior packages. I have been using CW since Symantec killed THINK.

I just want to see the bugs that may be in CWP-8 eradicated (granted there
may be some left over subtle bugs that might hang around) before Metrowerks
moves on to CW-9.

Yes, this is a great product - my point is I don't want to see feature creep
as an excuse to forget about the current version. It is easy - with a
limited staff - to get caught up with building something new. After all I
find it a lot more challenging to work on something different than to keep
fixing the old. But I owe it to my customer base to make what I currently
provide as reliable as possible - and I work in the electronics industry -
where new designs come out every week. New designs in this industry do not
stop companies from fixing bugs in current silicon - or making improvements
to enhance performance of existing designs (this include improving process
yields - allowing price reductions).

So, even though I have ranted a few times on these message boards, I will
keep coming back for upgrades - as long as I feel that the number one
feature being provided by MetroWerks (aka Motorola) is product quality.

Tom



in article mwron-7BD91B.21551518052002@enews.newsguy.com, MW Ron at
mwron@metrowerks.com wrote on 5/18/02 8:55 PM:

> In article <B90B3664.402C%tom325@flash.net>,
> Tom Anderson <tom325@flash.net> wrote:
> 
>> Ron - And NG:
>> 
>> Unfortunately your response belies exactly my one big gripe about
>> Metrowerks:
>> 
>> Changes and fixes but not much new.
> 
> If someone asks about PowerPlant specifically that is what I am going
> to write about.   CodeWarrior 8 is the most dramatic change without
> affecting the users interface that we have done.
> 
> code completion for C/C++ and Java
> On the fly language parsing,  you no longer have to compile the code to
> get the highlighted syntax
> better dif 
> better compilers
> better MSL
> Better browser
> Full cocoa suppport on OS X
> Compatibility with  OS X Interface Builder
> Better handling of Bundles
> Better handling of Frameworks
> Long name support in C/C++  (Java to follow in a patch after release)
> Better Template support
> Java 1.4 support on Mac and Windows
> Better optimizers
> on and on and on
> 
> we aren't just talking about bug fixes but with things entirely new 5.0
> IDE 3.0 compiler debugger  etc.
> 
> Mach-O  with SYM files for debugging.  JNI Mach-O  debugging  and on and
> on.
> 
>> So how can you charge so much if all you are doing is changes and fixes but
>> not much new.
> 
> We have tons of new features things that we have not been able to do for
> the past few years as we tried to keep up with Apple and OS X.   Now
> with 10.1 there is a excellent and stable OS and we are kicking butt
> with new features that you all have demanded for years.
> 
>> And you still haven't got JAVA - Apples latest release version to run on my
>> X system. Tech Support keeps telling me to go back to the original 1.3
>> Java....install from Apple.
> 
> Are you talking about the RAD tools or something else.  I'm on vacation
> this week but send me some information on your problem and I'll look
> into it.
> 
>> Someone needs to have a reality check on the business model. And I am not
>> looking to buy the Brooklyn Bridge. I am not looking for a new coat of paint
>> with a Revision Change, I want more cylinders under the hood and a six-speed
>> with better gas mileage and a Bose sound system to boot.
> 
> YOU GOT IT IN CW 8
> 
> Now for PowerPlant, unfortunately the current framework design is 8
> years old and needs more than just updating to take full advantage of OS
> X.   Metrowerks is very bullish on PowerPlant and sees a long future for
> it.  (read between the lines on this).
> 
> Ron