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Re: CodeWarrior for Windows Discontinued?

#415
From: Michael Forster
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 04:30
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MW Ron wrote:
> In article <1113433284.421988.181740@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>  "jonhoyle@mac.com" <jonhoyle@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Metrowerks has discontinued the sale and development of its Intel x86 
> compilers.  This technology is used in Symbian development and was 
> acquired by Nokia last year.   
> 
> Metrowerks will continue to provide online support for Windows on our 
> CodeWarrior Community Forum and USENET newsgroups and will continue to 
> take bug reports submitted to support@metrowerks.com. 
> 
> If you already have a license to use CodeWarrior for Windows this does 
> not affect your license to use those tools.
> 
> This also affected our Mac Hosted x86 cross compilers and we are not 
> licensing the x86 tools any more.  
> 
> We are currently looking at our options but I don't see any great desire 
> to be in the Windows market.   This may be a good deal for our Mac 
> hosted tools as we no longer have to worry about cross compatibility.
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
>>We just upgraded to CodeWarrior 9.4 on both our Mac and Windows
>>machines just a couple of weeks ago, so I know that it was just
>>recently supported.
>>
>>However, when I went to Metrowerks' product web site at
>>www.metrowerks.com/mw/products/default.htm , I see that it has been
>>removed.  When I went to the Metrowerks store to the Buy section, I see
>>only the Macintosh and other products listed now.  When I click on the
>>Windows link, I get "No error message found. (Error Number: 31016935 -
>>0)".  On some other pages, the Windows link has been removed
>>altogether.  I even went to the Metrowerks Site Map at
>>http://www.metrowerks.com/MW/siteMap/default.htm and clicked on all the
>>Windows links and got the error message "No default posting specified
>>for this channel" for each one of them.
>>
>>I further went on to the "Metrowerks Discontinued Products" page at
>>www.metrowerks.com/Discontinued/default.htm but did not see the Windows
>>compiler there (however, other discontinued products (such as Lattitude
>>and the Java compiler) was absent as well).
>>
>>Despite my surprise, I frankly could live with the fact that the
>>Windows-hosted tools are being discontinued.  They were never an
>>important factor to me, although they were admittedly a very nice
>>debugging convenience to have.  For me what is more important is for
>>the Windows compiler to live on on the Mac-hosted tools.  It is always
>>very nice to be able to cross-compile to Windows when needs be.  If the
>>Windows compiler disappears off BOTH the Windows and Mac-hosted tools,
>>one of the biggest advantages CodeWarrior has over Xcode will be lost.
>>
>>Jonathan Hoyle
>>
> 
> 

I converted over to CodeWarrior when CW was at DR2.  I converted from 
the Symantec product because of service (Symantec's service did not 
exist), even though Symatec's Think C product was quite incredible at 
the time.  However, there are several simularities between Symantec then 
and Metrowerks now.  Gradually sell of products to other companies, 
delay releases, introduce products and then discontinue them. 
Metrowerks was great because they were expanding, they were innovative, 
created things we were hard pressed to find anywhere else and above all, 
they had the best service and responsiveness around.

Now they are contracting from markets.  The handwriting is on the wall. 
  This is a dying company.  They have ceased to innovate and create new 
products.  They are no longer hungry.  The board of directors and 
financial people, most likely, guide the ship the way lawyers guide 
doctors.  They have gone down the road of so many companies before and 
have traded a target of success for a target of no risk and abandon the 
very people that they used to serve so well.

RIP

-Michael Forster
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