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6 total messages Started by Carol Ginsberg Brown Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:47
newbie question re text editors
#1315
Author: Carol Ginsberg Brown
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:47
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Hi. I'd like to use a text editor with CodeWarrior (6.0) that allows me
to keep my hands on the keyboard (much like my beloved gnu emacs for
Unix). This means extensive cursor control and text selection options
with customizable key bindings. I've looked at the CW editor that's
part of the IDE and also BBEdit but their commands are limited and/or
customization is limited. The emacs ports to the Mac aren't tightly
integrated with the IDE (another requirement). Anyone have a
satisfactory solution for a keyboard-only configurable editor that's
tightly integrated with the IDE? 

Any advice in this regard would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Carol
Re: newbie question re text editors
#1316
Author: Jon Guyer
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 18:43
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In article <030120011247039081%carol@carolginsbergbrown.com>, Carol 
Ginsberg Brown <carol@carolginsbergbrown.com> wrote:

> Anyone have a
> satisfactory solution for a keyboard-only configurable editor that's
> tightly integrated with the IDE? 

Alpha is rather like emacs in some respects (although it's not a port). 
Very customizeable. Oodles of key bindings. CodeWarrior integration is 
generally very good (I'm currently working on that to improve some areas 
that have gotten flakey).


<http://alpha.olm.net/>

with the very latest versions available at

<ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/pub/alpha/>

-- 
Jonathan E. Guyer

<http://www.his.com/jguyer/>
Re: newbie question re text editors
#1317
Author: Aaron Montgomery
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 21:45
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In article <030120011247039081%carol@carolginsbergbrown.com>, Carol 
Ginsberg Brown <carol@carolginsbergbrown.com> wrote:

> Hi. I'd like to use a text editor with CodeWarrior (6.0) that allows me
> to keep my hands on the keyboard (much like my beloved gnu emacs for
> Unix). This means extensive cursor control and text selection options
> with customizable key bindings. I've looked at the CW editor that's
> part of the IDE and also BBEdit but their commands are limited and/or
> customization is limited. The emacs ports to the Mac aren't tightly
> integrated with the IDE (another requirement). Anyone have a
> satisfactory solution for a keyboard-only configurable editor that's
> tightly integrated with the IDE? 
> 
> Any advice in this regard would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Carol

Jon Guyer will probably show up on this thread with the same suggestionl 
(especially now that I've invoked his name). You might want to look into 
Alpha <http://alpha.olm.net/>, it even has an emacs mode.

Aaron
Re: newbie question re text editors
#1318
Author: Harry Plate
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 16:18
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>> Hi. I'd like to use a text editor with CodeWarrior (6.0) that allows me
>> to keep my hands on the keyboard (much like my beloved gnu emacs for
>> Unix). This means extensive cursor control and text selection options
>> with customizable key bindings. I've looked at the CW editor that's
>> part of the IDE and also BBEdit but their commands are limited and/or
>> customization is limited. The emacs ports to the Mac aren't tightly
>> integrated with the IDE (another requirement). Anyone have a
>> satisfactory solution for a keyboard-only configurable editor that's
>> tightly integrated with the IDE?
>> 

Boy, am I with you! I dearly miss my gnu environment :-(

> 
> Jon Guyer will probably show up on this thread with the same suggestionl
> (especially now that I've invoked his name). You might want to look into
> Alpha <http://alpha.olm.net/>, it even has an emacs mode.
> 

I chk'd out 'alpha' some time ago, and turned away w/o trying it for the
following reasons:

1) tcl based; could NOT port my old lisp functions

2) tcl based; every thing that I've had experience with that was based on
tcl was very difficult to keep running; update a library, and everything
breaks; TOO MUCH hacking going on there for me.

I've been wrong before ... Maybe you could convince me that it is worth
trying!

- harry
Re: newbie question re text editors
#1319
Author: M.L. Hekkelman
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 18:51
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In article <030120011247039081%carol@carolginsbergbrown.com>, Carol 
Ginsberg Brown <carol@carolginsbergbrown.com> wrote:

> Hi. I'd like to use a text editor with CodeWarrior (6.0) that allows me
> to keep my hands on the keyboard (much like my beloved gnu emacs for
> Unix). This means extensive cursor control and text selection options
> with customizable key bindings. I've looked at the CW editor that's
> part of the IDE and also BBEdit but their commands are limited and/or
> customization is limited. The emacs ports to the Mac aren't tightly
> integrated with the IDE (another requirement). Anyone have a
> satisfactory solution for a keyboard-only configurable editor that's
> tightly integrated with the IDE? 

Pepper comes with optional emacs keybindings and it communicates with 
the Codewarrior IDE.

-maarten

--
http://www.hekkelman.com/                  Have a Pepper too
Re: newbie question re text editors
#1320
Author: Jon Guyer
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 20:01
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In article <B679E23D.10AB%developer.NO.SPAM@plate.net>, Harry Plate 
<developer.NO.SPAM@plate.net> wrote:

> I chk'd out 'alpha' some time ago, and turned away w/o trying it for the
> following reasons:
> 
> 1) tcl based; could NOT port my old lisp functions
> 
> 2) tcl based; every thing that I've had experience with that was based on
> tcl was very difficult to keep running; update a library, and everything
> breaks; TOO MUCH hacking going on there for me.

Crikey! It's just a language. I just got done schooling a Tcl biggot who 
was ranting about his perception of flaws in AppleScript. IT'S JUST A 
LANGUAGE. If it does what you need, use it. If it doesn't, don't.

Alpha is based on Tcl. 
Alpha is not emacs.

Alpha does share some bindings with emacs, as well as a philosophy of 
massive user customizability. The integration with CodeWarrior has been 
a bit flakey for the last few releases of Alpha, but I'm working on it.

-- 
Jonathan E. Guyer

<http://www.his.com/jguyer/>
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