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Re: WANTED: emacs editor.

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From: Tim Maroney
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1986 06:34
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I didn't see the original query, but assuming it was request for a Macintosh
Emacs: Unipress (the Gosling Emacs people) announced at Atlanta USENIX this
summer that they will be coming out with a Macintosh Emacs version.  I
believe it will use the Mac windowing system rather than the rather outdated
Emacs "tiled terminal windows", but I wouldn't bet my cat's paws on it.
Still, definitely something to keep an eye out for.

The biggest problem with it is that more and more Macintosh development
system vendors are coming out with so-called integrated development
environments, which actually just means you can invoke the compiler from
inside the editor.  Unfortunately, none of these are really integrated
editing environments.  There is no context-sensitivity in any of the
editors, for instance.  Usually the editors are just slightly improved
clones of the Consulair/MDS Editor: they are completely unprogrammable,
don't even have a way to record a command sequence and bind a command to it,
usually have display bugs (but never a display recover command), sometimes
lack any undoing at all, and always lack Emacs-style undoing, which in my
book is the only kind that counts.

To get reasonable performance you *have* to use the shoddy "integrated"
editor.  I shudder to think of switching back and forth between Emacs and
the MPW Shell for every make cycle, or between Emacs and Lightspeed C.
Emacs is the ultimate programmers' editor, and I think it is a shame that it
will likely not be all that useful for Mac development because of poor
development system design.
-- 
Tim Maroney, Electronic Village Idiot
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Subject: Re: WANTED: emacs editor.
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Date: Fri, 14-Nov-86 01:34:32 EST
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Posted: Fri Nov 14 01:34:32 1986
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