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Jason:

Please accept my apologies.  I was the one whose brain was out of gear.  In
Proverbs it says that 'sin is not far from much speaking' - how true.  Thank
you for stating that MaxSpeaks will not be repeated.

First, whether a developer supports the old ROMS or not will be determined
by several things:

	1) If they are top pros like Microsoft they will because that's
	the way to sell the most copies of a program.

	2) If they have special features that would be hard to do on
	the old ROMS (i.e. lots of patches such as servant) they will
	force you to get new ROMS.  e.g. Servant, some of the new draw
	programs.
	
	3) If they are a small operation (or a private individual that
	is doing this for their own enjoyment) they will have limited
	resources.  Most likely will choose to develop for whatever
	set of ROMS they currently have in the new machine (most likely
	the new ones these days, but not necessarily) - unless they have
	a VERY strong committment to general machine development and
	trying to serve the full range of configurations (and this is
	on a closed machine - wait until Paris and Alladin are here).

I do not see how there can be a definitive statement about whether both ROMS
should be suppported or only one.  I believe that the best possible case
will be that both ROMS will be supported, but I think that the three cases
above will exist.

Second, as the person who gets asked on many occasions in our lab about what
to buy for our Mac systems I get very ticked off that everyone assumes that
by some right of existence they deserve (hot) copies of:

	1) Copy II Mac
	2) MacWrite (which is NOT included w/ the Plus)
	3) MacPaint (")
	4) MacDraw
	5) VersaTerm/MacTerminal

and I wind up explaining why we should buy software and how pirating is
just a discrete form of shoplifting (and can be a felony at some of the
prices publishers charge).  I am perhaps oversensitive to this because of
a summer I spent at a company that ENFORCED pirating on its employees as a
matter of policy.  We were all handed copies of the manual and disk for
1-2-3 and EasyWriter when we started.  The corporate counsel did nothing to
assure me that a change would be made when I complained - and since I left
shortly thereafter to return to school I don't know if they ever changed.

We have had much better luck with pirating in my lab lately since the Mac
has been embraced by the lab and purchased in quantity - with software -
rather than one here or there.

I should have reacted to your message with the following rather than with
what I did say:

	Jason:

	It sounds from your last posting that you might be
	equating vanilla-Mac owners with priates.  I doubt
	you intended this, and I do agree that pirating is a
	severe problem - but how about a disclaimer for those
	of us with vanilla-Macs next time?  If we want companies
	to do away with copy-protection let's reinforce the
	positives.

The above would have saved keystrokes, time, and anguish.

Good luck with LSP C 2.x.

Steve Leeke
-- 
Steven D. Leeke, Center for Integrated Systems, Stanford University
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