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Re: Mac Plus with 256K ROMs?

#15490
From: chuq
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1987 05:03
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>In any case, this isn't really necessary.  There is no non-hardware-related
>feature of the SE ROMs which is not being made available to Plus users
>via patches.  If you run system 4.1 or later on your plus (or 512E)
>you'll get the new TextEdit, menu manager, and font manager that the 
>SE and II have.

This brings up an interesting question.  If this is all going to be patched
this implies they'll be loaded into RAM in the system heap.  How much memory
are these patches going to take, and is that loss of memory going to cripple
512K machines?  I remember the good old days when I was using the old ROM's
and RAM based HFS, and a number of programs that were well behaved in 512K
didn't work terribly well in (512K - RAM HFS).  A number of applications are
already pushing machines towars a megabyte or more (I would not do serious
work in LSC or Word 3.0 in 512K, and RSG3 could stand it too) and I expect
this to get worse over time. Are we pushing the smaller machines
into obsolescense that much faster?  Is there any way we can convince Apple
to put the non-hardware related functionality into a new ROM for owners of
the 512K and Plus so we don't have to eat our Ram for the rest of eternity?

This almost looks to me like a hidden inducement to obsolete the old
machines...  Now, where did I put that 2 megabyte upgrade, I think I'm going
to need it...

chuq
Chuq Von Rospach	chuq@sun.COM		[I don't read flames]

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Subject: Re: Mac Plus with 256K ROMs?
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