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Article #18865Re: Suns, support, less money
From: Richard Sexton
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1987 08:53
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1987 08:53
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In article <20548@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu.UUCP (David Phillip Oster) writes:
>In article <668@uokmax.UUCP> rob@uokmax.UUCP (Robert K. Shull) writes:
>>Tsk, tsk. NEVER mention "Sun", "support", and "less money" all in the same
>>breath. You're just asking for it.
>
>In case you are curious, here is a posting that appeared recently in the Sun
[...]
>
>This is a rehashed topic, but with the base price of a 16" color Sun-3/60C
>being under $10K ($9900), which translates to $6930 for those places lucky
>enough to have 30% discounts, it's really time to start looking seriously
>at this machine. The problem of course is that Sun is Not In The Disk Business
>Thus, to get the minimum level of functionality out of the machine as a
>standalone, you have to get the 141 Mbyte SCSI/ESDI disk & 60 Mbyte 1/4" tape.
>This lists for $6500 (/$4550 @ 30%); in other words, almost 65-70% of the cost
>of the machine itself. Ouch.
>
>(---- end included material ---)
>so at $6500+$9900=$16,400.00 (list) or
>$6930+$4550=$11,480.00 (university discount) for a usable bottom of the
>line color sun, versus the Mac II prices, I know which I'd rather buy.
>
>So please, if you think the Sun is in the same price range as the Mac II,
>think again before you post. They are two very different machines.
[...]
>
>--- David Phillip Oster --My Good News: "I'm a perfectionist."
DESKTOP TECHNICAL WORKSTATIONS (MONOCHROME) VS. PCs
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SUN APOLLO VAX IBM APPLE
--- ------ --- --- -----
Model 3/50M DN3000L 2000 PS 80-071 Mac II
Chip MC68020 MC68020 uVAX78032 80386 MC68020
MIPS 1.5 1.2 0.9(1) 2.0 1.2
Max Mem 4MB ? ? 16MB 8MB
Display 19" 19" 15" 12" 12"
Res. 1152x900 1280x1024 1024x864 640x480 640x480
Disk 282MB 348MB 318MB 230MB 80MB
Price(2) $9,995(3) $9,490(3) $11,300 $13,370 $13,350
(1) New systems to be announced at 3.0 MIPS
(2) With 71 MB hard disk and cartridge tape
(3) Available diskless with server for $5,000 less
Source: Sun Microsystems and Apollo Computer
Disclaimer: I read it in Infoworld, so it *must* be true.
--
Richard J. Sexton
INTERNET: richard@gryphon.CTS.COM
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