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Article #19378Re: 386 vs. '020, BYTE Benchmarks, Smalltalk
From: Joel West
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1987 15:08
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1987 15:08
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In article <1714@tekchips.TEK.COM>, jans@tekchips.TEK.COM (Jan Steinman) writes:
> One problem with most benchmarks is that they are easily twisted to suit some
> purpose. The Smalltalk Benchmarks are now considered invalid because one
> implementation caches compiled code.
Actually, this shows my main point, which is most 30-line benchmarks
are next to worthless, anyway. On a real-size benchmark, caching
code will show a significant performance advantage, so this
is a legitimate thing to do.
Of course, it's a lot of work to run small benchmarks; it can require
weeks to run the larger ones across a variety of machines. So
we should not be suprised that people run around producing and
touting meaningless benchmark results, because those are the only
ones ever run.
My idea of a benchmark is to take three different 20,000 line programs,
written by three different authors from three different styles (it
would be nice if one were machine-generated, such as from C++
or Objective-C), and then see if they produce the correct result,
if they compile or run at all. Many PC compilers would fail this
test miserably.
w
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