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lalonde@nicmad.UUCP (John Lalonde) writes:

    You're a funny guy if you think that Unisoft's networking code is
    more 'solid' than Sun's code. I know of many OEMs who have not
    been thrilled with Unisoft's code.

Hmm.  Have you actually USED A/UX?  Have you helped Apple test out the
A/UX network code?  The A/UX network code is based on the Sun and 4.3
code (or was last I checked).  So far it's the first machine that
doesn't run vanilla 4.3 I've seen in person that runs 'bind' and
the resolver code correctly, not to mention subnetting, which Sun
did wrong for quite some time.  Repeat after me: A/UX != Uniplus.
This is not speculation, folks.  We had one of the first EtherTalk
boards out of Cupertino, and we've been pounding on A/UX pretty hard
from a networking standpoint.

    I say the Mac toolbox access from AUX will not pan out like
    everybody seems to think it will.  Access to the toolbox is single
    threaded. Why would anyone want a single threaded graphics
    environment on top of a multitasking kernel? Why not just use X or
    NeWS if you are running A/UX? Have you seen the number of toolbox
    managers that don't work (yet) under A/UX?

Nothing says it will *stay* single-threaded.  If I were Apple, I'd be
working real hard with the Mac OS folks to come up with a Layer
Manager that would work under A/Ux or Multifinder.  Aside from that, X
runs on it already, and NeWS would be a natural, but I'd wait for
Sun's next release (the one with the X11 server built in).  Pardon my
annoyance, but complaints based on what you've heard about a product
that hasn't even been !@$$#! released seems to me to be a little
unreasonable.  Sometimes you guess wrong, after all.

    A Sys V File System on top of a I/O subsystem like in the Mac II
    will be SLOW.  Unisoft uses *Sun's* Virtual File System design to
    support NFS but retains the standard Sys V file system.

    At least Unisoft put in some BSD features (sockets, select) and
    some of *Sun's* efforts (NFS, Virtual File System). But A/UX is
    not BSD. Period.

Neither is it Uniplus.  Period.  Neither is Sun OS BSD.  Period.
    
    -- 
    John LaLonde
    Systems Engineering Group
    Nicolet Instrument Corporation
    uucp: {ihnp4,seismo,decvax,harvard}!uwvax!nicmad!lalonde

I like A/UX, but you can't even buy it yet.  OSU CIS chose the Sun 3/50
over Mac IIs for a major (250+ unit) order in part because the Mac II
with A/UX wasn't ready yet.  We were still impressed as <expletive
deleted> with what Apple had out as a beta.

I stand by my position.


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       The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
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