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Re: Transfering Text--Questions

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From: Boyd Ostroff
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1988 02:40
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>in article <6885@drutx.ATT.COM>, slb@drutx.ATT.COM (Sue Brezden) says:
>> 
>> He would like to transfer text files from the Apple IIe to
>> the Mac, using the modem ports.  
>>    
>>      1.  How can he go about constructing a null modem
>>          to physically cable the two together 

I have used the following with great success a number of times.  This assumes
a DB-25 on the Apple II and a DB-9 on the Mac - you'll need a DB-9 to mini-DIN
adaptor if you're using a Mac Plus.  The numbers refer to pins on each plug.

DB-9                                 DB-25
----                                 -----
1 (FG) ----------------------------- 1 (FG)
9 (RXD) <--------------------------- 2 (TXD)
6 (DTR) ---------------------------- 6 (DSR)
5 (TXD) ---------------------------> 3 (RXD)
7 (CTS) ---------------------------- 20,8,4,5 (DCD,RTS,CTS)
3 (SG) ----------------------------- 7 (SG)

>>      2.  How about software?  What does he need?

To go FROM the Apple II TO the Mac is a snap!  Assuming that you just want to
send a straight text file, from Appleworks for example, you don't need any
special software for the Apple II.  On the Mac side, you can use any good
terminal program with a "capture file" feature.  Personally, I prefer FreeTerm,
a public-domain terminal program which is widely available, very easy to
use, and quite effective at capturing ASCII text files to disk.  Here's how:

1. Fire up Appleworks.  I'm assuming that you have a Super Serial Card, or
the equivalent in your Apple II.  Configure Appleworks as though the serial
card were a "printer".

2. Fire up FreeTerm on the Mac, turn on the "capture file".  Make sure that
the baud rates, data words, stop bits, etc are the same on both computers.
I suggest you use 1200 baud to keep things safe/simple (the Apple II can't
handle 9600 baud very well :-).

3. Now simply tell Appleworks to "print" your file as you normally would.
Everything which would appear on the printed page will be transferred to the
Mac instead.  You can use a text editor such as MDS Edit, MiniWriter, QED,
or even MacWrite (in text mode with Monaco) to "clean up" the file on the Mac.

We have moved hundreds of K's this exact way.  The same technique will work
with any Apple II application which can send data to a printer.

You could also use a terminal program on the Apple II side, such as ASCII
Express or ProTerm, but why make things more complicated than they need to
be?  BTW, you can even transfer Applesoft BASIC (ugh) program source this
way (assuming a serial card in slot 1) by typing:

]PR #1
]LIST

on the the Apple II, which re-directs the console screen output to slot 1.

For even more fun, try:

]PR #1
]IN #1

on the Apple II - now your Mac is a "Terminal" for the Apple II! (why?) 
Hope this is helpful.

-Boyd

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From: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Transfering Text--Questions
Message-ID: <712@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Date: 16 Mar 88 02:40:58 GMT
References: <6885@drutx.ATT.COM> <468@stech.UUCP>
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.UUCP (Boyd Ostroff)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Oswego Macintosh Users Group (OMUG)
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Keywords: Apple II, ASCII Files, Null Modem
Summary: I've been here before...