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3 button systems (was A/UX window systems, Mac toolbox, etc)

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From: Bruce Barnett
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 1988 17:14
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User interfaces tend to start religious wars.

Especially when we have people on the net whom have only used
one interface proficiently.

I am not saying that what you do is WRONG, but merely what *I* like.

It is very hard to visualize a sophisicated user interface
from these articles. So bear with me.

In article <346@esquire.UUCP> sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) writes:

|I don't know.  Having used 1, 2, and 3 buttons, I find I like 1 button
|most of all 

First of all - did you have a DECENT 3-button window system, and did
you learn how to use it effectively?

Saying a one-button system is better that all three button systems is
silly, because a flexible window system can allow you to emulate a
one-button system. And if you want to take a pair of pliers to your
three button mouse to perform a button-ectomy - fine! :-)

But three button systems, with a flexible window system, 
have - to me - several advantages. 

For instance - I like the ability to move, resize, hide, expose, open
or close a window by grabbing the window anywhere along the edge and
hitting the proper combination of keys and buttons.

Don't some window systems do a window resize by grabbing a special
(fixed) part of the frame? And moving a window is another spot on the
frame?  And of course that part of the frame must be exposed.

Maybe you like this. Hokay. But I would be frustrated because
if I want to move and resize a window, I can't do both using any
corner that's exposed. I have to

	expose the proper spot
	move the mouse to that corner ( say lower right).
	perform the resize ( assume the upper left corner stays fixed).
	move the mouse to another corner
	perform the move
	put the window back to the proper top-to-bottom position..


Given a flexible window system what I would like to do to make the
same window larger - but leave the (say) lower right corner fixed, is
to :

	Move mouse to upper left corner and press the proper buttons.
	move the mouse to the proper position and let go of the buttons.

I would think that pull-down menus would also slow me down.

Why move the mouse up to the top when all of my choices could
be known by leaving the mouse in the same spot and pressing the button
that gives you the pop-up menus?

And I would bind the other buttons on the mouse to act as
accelerators, so I wouldn't have to use the pop-up menus except for
rare occassions.

|On the other hand, what do multi-button, popup menu people think about
|the new tear-off menus in Hypercard (I like them)?

What are tear-off menus?
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Bruce G. Barnett  <barnett@ge-crd.ARPA> <barnett@steinmetz.UUCP>
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From: barnett@grymoire.steinmetz (Bruce Barnett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.windows.misc
Subject: 3 button systems (was  A/UX window systems, Mac toolbox, etc)
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Date: 4 Mar 88 17:14:43 GMT
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