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Re: Problems with a Mac II and a Mac Pl

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From: Michael Thomas Niehaus
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1988 19:45
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In article <23807@bbn.COM>, dkovar@bbn.com (David C. Kovar) writes:
> In article <76000191@uiucdcsp> gillies@uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu writes:
> >
> >Get out a resistor and temporarily short your battery.  If you do it
> >just briefly, you can probably zero the PRAM before you kill the
> >battery.  
> >
> >Don Gillies {ihnp4!uiucdcs!gillies} U of Illinois
> 
>   Ye gads, man! Why not just hold down the Command, Option, and shift keys
> when you select "Control Panel" from the Apple Menu and respond "Yes" when
> it asks you if you really want to zap the PRAM? Much easier. Works very
> nicely on my Mac II running the latest system software. Earlier releases 
> of the system do not allow this.
> 
> -David
Yes, I was the person who wrote the original message.  If you would remember
this one, you would also remember that the machine will not boot at all.  This
causes just a slight problem with your solution.  If we could get to the
Control Panel, then we wouldn't have a problem.  The machine is so messed up
that it will not boot.  Apple suggested trying the diagnostics disk to find out
the problem, but that won't boot either, just like every other disk that we
have.  On the Mac Plus, it is easy to zap the PRAM: you just remove the battery
(this machine would not boot either).  The Mac II is a different story.  I
seem to think that soldering the batteries to the motherboard is a slight 
design problem.  Who cares if they are supposed to last 8 years; if I have
a problem with them, I would like to be able to remove them myself.  I don't
like the idea of having to send it to a certified Apple technician.  It seems
that this particular "advancement" in the Mac II is really a fallback to
the old no-user-replaceable-parts deal.

Michael Niehaus
UUCP: ..!{uunet,pur-ee,iuvax}!bsu-cs!mithomas
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From: mithomas@bsu-cs.UUCP (Michael Thomas Niehaus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Problems with a Mac II and a Mac Pl
Message-ID: <2713@bsu-cs.UUCP>
Date: 23 Apr 88 19:45:17 GMT
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Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana
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