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Re: 6.0.2 and Word

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From: Richard G Brewer
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1989 16:18
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In article <35727@bbn.COM> oliveira@bbn.com (John Oliveira) writes:
>
>has anybody experience problems using microsoft word  with system 6.0.2,
>i've been getting a lot of system bombs just by saving a file or just by
>send it to print or even by just looking at the mac without doing anything
>it just bombs.
>is word incompatible with 6.0.2 system or is the system buggy?
>thank you

I have a friend who uses word - under 6.0.2 and multfinder, while saving, Word
"unexpectedly quit" causing him to loose 8 hrs worth of work. This is what he
wrote (ARE YOU LISTENING MICROSOFT!! OPEN YOUR EARS!!)

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To: harvey@xray.byu
Subject: MS Word sucks finally
Cc: gshapiro, jayvana, sthamel, tron

I have finally said it.  I have a good reason to say it.  MS Word sucks.  This
is the first time I have ever had it actually lose something on me.  I am going
to call up Microsoft support tomorrow morning and find out if there is any way
I can recover this thing.

I had just spent all of Sunday night (no sleep, sounds like you, Todd!) writing
a report for an ME course, and at 10:00, I was just finishing printing it out,
as the class started.  I ran over to the class to hand it in, and left.  Then
today in class the professor told me to see him, and he said I had done the
report all wrong and had to rewrite the thing and hand it in late and get it
marked down for being late.  So I said ok.  It was my own stupid fault, because
I printed out the wrong thing on the AT&T PCs that he told us to print out 
the report instructions from, and I didn't know how to use them very well, so
I never went back to print them out because it was such a chore.  Stupid, but
what's done is done.

So this afternoon I started rewriting the whole thing.  I used Word's outliner
to organize it, and I was going crazy with MacDraw and Word together in
Multifinder to make great organized, illustrated stuff, so that if I couldn't
impress the professor with my ability to follow instructions, at least I could
impress him by doing it really nicely once I got it done.

About half an hour ago I came to a good stopping point (I had been working on
this revision non stop from 5:00 until about 1:00--8 FUCKING hours, guys!  This
is an entire day for Joe Buisinessman!  Microsoft, are you listening???), so I
decided to go to bed and spend a couple of hours tomorrow afternoon to finish
it up and hand it in only two days late.  So I hit command-s, it saves fine.

Then I do what I always do whenever I save a Word document completely for a
while.  I do a save as, and turn fast save off.  This is a perfectly acceptable
thing, and I do it because it will save me quite a bit of disk space on a file
of this size (13,400 characters in the character count from Word, and it was
54 K on the disk, which I looked at out of curiosity since I was in multifinder
and all I had to do was pop back to the finder, get info, and pop back to Word
and do a complete resave on the thing).

So I hit save, and hit yes to "do you want to replace Project 1 file?"  It gets
to 33% saved, and suddenly I get a multifinder error of (3), and multifinder
tells me that Word has unexpectedly quit.



What?


WHAT?

Word?


No.

No, Word.

You don't do this to me.

Mathematica does this to me.

Lightspeed Pascal can do this to me.

Even HyperCard can do something like this to me.

But not you, Word, good old, very close, very trustworthy friend.

And in the middle of a save as?  Where I was replacing my only other copy of
this file that exists in the universe?  Naw, naw!  Microsoft isn't STUPID!  They
wouldn't do a save as that replaces a document by erasing the doc, then writing
over it!  They would write out a new doc, then delete the old, and rename the
new!  We learned that "good programming technique" back in Computer 2 with Mr.
Huot, right?

So I go and examine the situation.

Project 1 is now 34K.  Well, maybe it did finish and non fast save just saved
me 20K.  Open it.  This document is damaged.  I'll open it as a text document
for you.  Garbage.  These are the text representations of the drawings I used
in the document, which I don't care about because I saved those each in their
own files, anyway.  But no text.

Panic.  Yes.  Panic.  SHIT.

Ok, let's go to Symantec Utilities now and undelete all of the word temp and,
heck, let's delete every file I can, just in case!

Hey, this looks promising!  Word temp 10 (the highest numbered one!) consists
of 11K!  That sounds like most of the text I typed to me!  Open it.  yeay.  a
fucking picture of a fucking drawing i had fucking saved with macdraw
alfuckingready.  fuck.  open other word temps.  more macdraws.  open word
temps in system folder.  garbage.  scroll throug the garbage.  multifinder
error 3 again.  what the uck is this shit?  try again.  error again.  this
time a system bomb.  guess there was some bug in my system.  ok, that does it.
 I'm going to call Microsoft customer support to find out when they're opened
tomorrow.  I did that.

6 to 6 pacific time.  great.  that means I have to make two calls to
california.  But if they can save me, it will be worth it.  We'll have to see
tomorrow morning.  Luckily it's wednesday, so I don't have classes and can
spend most of the morning trying to recover from this problem.

Now it's 2:00, and the screen seems to be growing farther and farther away
from me, the fan seems to be getting louder and louder, and the keyboard is
feeling mighty strange and distant from my eyes right now.  I think this means
I'm getting very tired and should be going to bed now.  Ha!  But I HAD been
planning to do that one hour ago!  SHIT!


SHIT SHI SHI SIHT!  FUck stow i cant even type well anymore.  goodinght
everyone.  shit

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As you can see, he was very irritated, and even moreso at the inept "customer
support lines at MICROSOFT. I hope that They're listening...


-Rick

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From: tron@wpi.wpi.edu (Richard G Brewer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: 6.0.2  and Word
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Date: 9 Feb 89 16:18:01 GMT
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