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In article <10308@netnews.upenn.edu> hodas@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Josh
Hodas) writes:
>I spent 1/2 an hour downloading it (locally, not the ftp) and 4 hours printing
>the 70 page manual on my deskjet (using my existing grappler driver).
>I should have waited.  It seems to be extremely buggy,

Would we dare to suggest: not notably more buggy than many other free
software packages, some of which do not come with source code to allow
you to verify and fix the bug in case you would be willing to do so.

>                                                       at least on my
>Mac II (the manual mentions it was tested on a plus, a 512 i think,
>and a macified atari, but nothing with 128k ROMS).

Actually, both the Plus and the 512KE we used have (of course) 128K
ROMs.  Mr. Jari Asikainen (who owns the 512KE with Dove 2MB+SCSI) has
been testing the HPDJ driver since December 1988.  A local Mac & HP
DeskJet dealer has been using HPDJ with a Mac II since 4th of April
1989 for demonstration purposes.  Neither of them have reported any
problems appearing to be this serious.

>It bombed as soon as I tried to print a catalog from the finder.

With which id did it bomb?  Were you using AppleTalk?  AppleShare?
Did you reboot after removing Grappler from your system folder and
changing the HPDJ Chooser settings not to conflict with possible
AppleTalk (as instructed in the manual, in section 3.4, Settings)
before trying to print the first time?  A more detailed bug report
would be much appreciated. With your minimal description, we were
unable to reproduce the bug.  (Please see section 5.2 of the manual,
Reporting Bugs for detailed instructions for as how to report a
problem with HPDJ.)  We have certainly printed literally hundreds of
pages from the Finder (versions 4.1, 6.0, and 6.1) using both 64K and
128K ROMs.

>I was able to get it printing from other apps,

From applications not mentioned in our list of (apparently) working
applications?  We would be interested to hear.  It would be nice if
you could mail this information together a more detailed bug report to
the mail alias "hpdj-bugs@hut.fi".

>                                               but suddenly after a
>few printouts, it kept printing in 75 dpi (or 100 i forget) no matter
>what I selected in the print dialog.

Which application were you using?  Which version?  Most notably, MS
Word 3.0x and Pagemaker 2.x are known to use print records in bizarre
ways, forcing themselves to 100 dpi printout with HPDJ.

Perhaps this is a bug peculiar to the Mac II only.  On the other hand,
this behavior has never appeared with Atari+Aladin, Mac 512KE, Mac
Plus, or Mac SE.  Please report the situation more carefully so we can
try to reproduce the bug.

>                                      Basically, I applaud the
>concept, and I hope Olli et al can get it working, but for now its
>back in my inactive file.
>
>Josh

Thank you for encouragement.

>PS:  I forgot to mention, the application that prints the spooled documents 
>     (such as the manual) seems unable to deal with page subranges that 
>     do not begin with 1.  It crunches for a while and then returns without
>     doing anything.  Again, a great idea, but to many problems.

This is an actual bug; thank you for reporting it.  In the process of
adding printing a specified number of pages as described in Inside
Macintosh II-156, we added the code found there scrupulously without
realizing that it must be done before the call "PrOpenDoc".  We hope
that this bug won't prevent you from using the program the current
version 0.0 of the BatchPrint application was mainly intended to allow
printing the manuals.  The bug will be corrected in the next release
of BatchPrint.  Those who want to fix it by themselves: in function
"fOurPrintWindow", move the lines between a call to "PrOpenDoc" and a
"FOR" statement before the "PROPenDoc" call.

 Olli Arnberg (s29749s@saha.hut.fi), Ari Mujunen (s29851c@taltta.hut.fi)