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From article <23098@brunix.UUCP>, by rca@cs.brown.edu (Ronald C.F. Antony):
>> NeXT is notorious for missing
>> ship dates; they've missed the date for color before already.
> 
> NeXT has so far a pretty good record for KEEPING the things 
> they promised. Including deadlines. The only time so far...

Nope. They told us we would have the machine with a real OS (or they implied
it would have a real OS by telling us the machine would be ready) about 6
months before it actually shipped. And they told us they would have color
NeXT month, January (this was a rep we had on campus last summer).

>> And don't get me going on the beta versions of Mach...

> MACH is pretty stable...

I wasn't talking about its stability, I was talking about its half-life.

> I get more often bombs on the Mac than crashes on the NeXT.

Firstly, the NeXT runs a UN*X variant. Processes rarely kill the entire system.
(Although I seem to be doing it with increasing frequency... but that's
probably because X gets killed and kills the machine in turn...) The Mac doesn't
run UN*X. The Mac is a microcomputer. Sometimes it runs UN*X. The OS it
is shipped with isn't UN*X. This is according to demand.

Secondly (and I feel like I should put this in a macro at this point), I
DON"T CRASH THE MAC unless I'm hacking. People I know don't crash the Mac.
If crashes happen, we blame the application and throw it out. The crashes
go away. It's the application's problem. The OS is stable.

> And anyway: 1.0 is NO longer beta.

<clap clap clap> How long did it take again?

> University or not, compare the same pricing, either business or
> university pricing, and the NeXT will be cheaper than a
> comparable Mac (if there exists such a thing).

Marketing marketing marketing. Macs cost because people pay.

>>Editor, Macker | Online Macintosh Programming Journal; mail for
>>subscription
>                   ^no wonder he is upset! Why don't you settle
>                    down and publish a NeXT Programming Journal?

Give me a NeXT and I will. But I'll have to learn tons more about UN*X,
Objective C, and NeXT's class library first. Give me three or four years.

>>Hire this kid  |
>    ^ maybe, one day... But he will have to work on a NeXT :)

Fine. I haven't got anything against UN*X. But I wouldn't tarde my SE/30
for a NeXT, regardless of monetary considerations.
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