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On 4/5/05 8:35 AM, in article vuw4e.1138$5F3.702@news-server.bigpond.net.au,
"pedro" <pedro@nowhere.com> wrote:

> 
> Hi all!  :)
> 
> I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when I
> ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
> 
> 'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
> 
> and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize it. Does
> this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way around this?
> 
> TIA,
> 

Sounds like you've got a drive formatted in a way Mac's don't understand.
Also, it is likely that your drive is not supported by Apple's Drive Setup,
which means you need a third-party solution.

Try looking for LaCie "Silverlining" or FWB's HD Toolkit.
-- 
Brian Ehni

pedro <pedro@nowhere.com> writes:
> 
> I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when
> I ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
> 
> 'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
> 
> and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize
> it. Does this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way
> around this?

Apple's Drive Setup utility, when used on SCSI drives, doesn't
generally like to work with third-party drives.  Which is annoying,
since it works just fine with third-party IDE drives.

As someone else wrote, a third-party formatting tool should work.

I know of three, all of which are commercial products.

CharisMac's Anubis ($89):
        http://www.charismac.com/Products/Anubis

LaCie's SilverLining.  Unfortunately, I think this utility can no longer
be purchased as a standalone product.  It is bundled with many LaCie
products.

FWB's Hard Disk Toolkit ($89):
        http://www.fwb.com/html/hard_disk_toolkit.html

-- David

David C. wrote:

>pedro <pedro@nowhere.com> writes:
>  
>
>>I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when
>>I ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>>
>>'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>>
>>and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize
>>it. Does this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way
>>around this?
>>    
>>
>
>Apple's Drive Setup utility, when used on SCSI drives, doesn't
>generally like to work with third-party drives.  Which is annoying,
>since it works just fine with third-party IDE drives.
>
>As someone else wrote, a third-party formatting tool should work.
>
>I know of three, all of which are commercial products.
>
>CharisMac's Anubis ($89):
>        http://www.charismac.com/Products/Anubis
>
>LaCie's SilverLining.  Unfortunately, I think this utility can no longer
>be purchased as a standalone product.  It is bundled with many LaCie
>products.
>
>FWB's Hard Disk Toolkit ($89):
>        http://www.fwb.com/html/hard_disk_toolkit.html
>
>-- David
>  
>

I did manage to get some TP programs, but I still cannot get it to 
install. Are there some limitations with regards my Mac PM7300 and/or OS 
version 8.1 and/or the design or size of some drives perhaps?


-- 

rgds,

Pete
-----
http://pedro.spyw.com
The time here is- http://tinyurl.com/6sfgd
'My Karma just ran over your Dogma'

Brian Paul Ehni wrote:


>On 4/5/05 8:35 AM, in article vuw4e.1138$5F3.702@news-server.bigpond.net.au,
>"pedro" <pedro@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi all!  :)
>>
>>I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when I
>>ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>>
>>'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>>
>>and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize it. Does
>>this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way around this?
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Sounds like you've got a drive formatted in a way Mac's don't understand.
>Also, it is likely that your drive is not supported by Apple's Drive Setup,
>which means you need a third-party solution.
>
>Try looking for LaCie "Silverlining" or FWB's HD Toolkit.
>  
>


I did manage to get some TP programs, but I still cannot get it to 
install. Are there some limitations with regards my Mac PM7300 and/or OS 
version 8.1 and/or the design or size of some drives perhaps?


-- 

rgds,

Pete
-----
http://pedro.spyw.com
The time here is- http://tinyurl.com/6sfgd
'Champagne for our real friends and real pain for our sham friends!'

On 4/8/05 10:11 PM, in article
zJH5e.4595$5F3.2376@news-server.bigpond.net.au, "pedro" <pedro@nowhere.com>
wrote:

> I did manage to get some TP programs, but I still cannot get it to
> install. Are there some limitations with regards my Mac PM7300 and/or OS
> version 8.1 and/or the design or size of some drives perhaps?
> 


None that I am aware of. SCSI can be very finicky; make sure the jumpers for
your model drive are set properly.

This usually means the drive is terminated and set to ID 0 (zero). There may
be other jumpers on your drive (delay motor start, write protect, etc.) that
need to be set as well.
-- 
Brian Ehni

pedro wrote:

> David C. wrote:
>
>> pedro <pedro@nowhere.com> writes:
>>  
>>
>>> I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when
>>> I ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>>>
>>> 'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>>>
>>> and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize
>>> it. Does this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way
>>> around this?
>>>   
>>
>>
>> Apple's Drive Setup utility, when used on SCSI drives, doesn't
>> generally like to work with third-party drives.  Which is annoying,
>> since it works just fine with third-party IDE drives.
>>
>> As someone else wrote, a third-party formatting tool should work.
>>
>> I know of three, all of which are commercial products.
>>
>> CharisMac's Anubis ($89):
>>        http://www.charismac.com/Products/Anubis
>>
>> LaCie's SilverLining.  Unfortunately, I think this utility can no longer
>> be purchased as a standalone product.  It is bundled with many LaCie
>> products.
>>
>> FWB's Hard Disk Toolkit ($89):
>>        http://www.fwb.com/html/hard_disk_toolkit.html
>>
>> -- David
>>  
>>
>
> I did manage to get some TP programs, but I still cannot get it to 
> install. Are there some limitations with regards my Mac PM7300 and/or 
> OS version 8.1 and/or the design or size of some drives perhaps?
>
>
There are some definite limits, but I can't remember whether it is 1 or 
2 gigs. MacTracker should tell you. www.mactracker.com. If you 
initialize and then partition with  FWB
HD Toolkit, it should work.

On 5/4/05 21:35, in article vuw4e.1138$5F3.702@news-server.bigpond.net.au,
"pedro" <pedro@nowhere.com> wrote:

> 
> Hi all!  :)
> 
> I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when I
> ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
> 
> 'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
> 
> and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize it. Does
> this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way around this?
> 
> TIA,
> 

Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
(subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!

On 4/9/05 1:27 PM, in article BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
<wally@wally.world.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On 5/4/05 21:35, in article vuw4e.1138$5F3.702@news-server.bigpond.net.au,
> "pedro" <pedro@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi all!  :)
>> 
>> I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when I
>> ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>> 
>> 'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>> 
>> and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize it. Does
>> this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way around this?
>> 
>> TIA,
>> 
> 
> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!
> 


I can't find this group in giganews, only "alt.binaries.test"
-- 
Brian Ehni

On 4/9/05 1:27 PM, in article BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
<wally@wally.world.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On 5/4/05 21:35, in article vuw4e.1138$5F3.702@news-server.bigpond.net.au,
> "pedro" <pedro@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi all!  :)
>> 
>> I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when I
>> ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>> 
>> 'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>> 
>> and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize it. Does
>> this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way around this?
>> 
>> TIA,
>> 
> 
> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!
> 


Did find it in MT-NewsWatcher! Thanks!
-- 
Brian Ehni

On 4/9/05 1:27 PM, in article BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
<wally@wally.world.net> wrote:

 
> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!

Let me be a little more specific.

Entourage 2004 did not find "alt.binaries.test2" in my Comcast-provided
Giganews account, though it did show "alt.binaries.test".

MT-NewsWatcher, using the same account, showed it.
-- 
Brian Ehni

>> I did manage to get some TP programs, but I still cannot get it to 
>> install. Are there some limitations with regards my Mac PM7300 and/or 
>> OS version 8.1 and/or the design or size of some drives perhaps?
>>
>>
> There are some definite limits, but I can't remember whether it is 1 or 
> 2 gigs. MacTracker should tell you. www.mactracker.com. If you 
> initialize and then partition with  FWB
> HD Toolkit, it should work.

The limit is 2 Terabytes for that system, larger than any drive yet made.

On 10/4/05 4:23, in article BE7DA3D5.26584%behni@comcast.net, "Brian Paul
Ehni" <behni@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 4/9/05 1:27 PM, in article BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
> <wally@wally.world.net> wrote:
> 
>  
>> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
>> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!
> 
> Let me be a little more specific.
> 
> Entourage 2004 did not find "alt.binaries.test2" in my Comcast-provided
> Giganews account, though it did show "alt.binaries.test".
> 
> MT-NewsWatcher, using the same account, showed it.

That's strange....anyway I just put it in alt.binaries.test as well.
No word from pedro yes So I wonder if it was any help, it did get me out of
trouble years ago on an 840av.

On 4/11/05 1:37 AM, in article BE803C8B.986D%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
<wally@wally.world.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On 10/4/05 4:23, in article BE7DA3D5.26584%behni@comcast.net, "Brian Paul
> Ehni" <behni@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/9/05 1:27 PM, in article BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
>> <wally@wally.world.net> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
>>> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!
>> 
>> Let me be a little more specific.
>> 
>> Entourage 2004 did not find "alt.binaries.test2" in my Comcast-provided
>> Giganews account, though it did show "alt.binaries.test".
>> 
>> MT-NewsWatcher, using the same account, showed it.
> 
> That's strange....anyway I just put it in alt.binaries.test as well.
> No word from pedro yes So I wonder if it was any help, it did get me out of
> trouble years ago on an 840av.
> 


I don't do much support for the classic Operating Systems anymore, but you
can bet I downloaded it in case!
-- 
Brian Ehni

In article <BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net>,
 Wally <wally@wally.world.net> wrote:

> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!

I am having some similar SCSI problems, and thought this would be 
useful. But I cannot see alt.binaries.test(2) anywhere. Any chance of 
getting it somewhere else? Eg, e-mail to my junk mail address above and 
I will look for it amongst the spam.

Thanks

David

On 4/13/05 7:00 PM, in article
davidmor-AA6F03.10004814042005@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au, "David Morrison"
<davidmor@excite.com> wrote:

> In article <BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net>,
>  Wally <wally@wally.world.net> wrote:
> 
>> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
>> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!
> 
> I am having some similar SCSI problems, and thought this would be
> useful. But I cannot see alt.binaries.test(2) anywhere. Any chance of
> getting it somewhere else? Eg, e-mail to my junk mail address above and
> I will look for it amongst the spam.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> David

He also put it in alt.binaries.test.

Apparently, some newsreaders (like Entourage 2004) could not see
alt.binaries.test2, with others (MT-Newswatcher) can.
-- 
Brian Ehni

> He also put it in alt.binaries.test.
> 
> Apparently, some newsreaders (like Entourage 2004) could not see
> alt.binaries.test2, with others (MT-Newswatcher) can.

None of the news servers I have access to carry either group. Whatever 
newsreader I used would still not get it.

David

On 14/4/05 8:00, in article
davidmor-AA6F03.10004814042005@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au, "David Morrison"
<davidmor@excite.com> wrote:

> In article <BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net>,
>  Wally <wally@wally.world.net> wrote:
> 
>> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
>> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!
> 
> I am having some similar SCSI problems, and thought this would be
> useful. But I cannot see alt.binaries.test(2) anywhere. Any chance of
> getting it somewhere else? Eg, e-mail to my junk mail address above and
> I will look for it amongst the spam.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> David

Done!
It should be in your in box David.

Wally wrote:
 

>On 10/4/05 4:23, in article BE7DA3D5.26584%behni@comcast.net, "Brian Paul
>Ehni" <behni@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On 4/9/05 1:27 PM, in article BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
>><wally@wally.world.net> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>    
>>
>>>Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
>>>(subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!
>>>      
>>>
>>Let me be a little more specific.
>>
>>Entourage 2004 did not find "alt.binaries.test2" in my Comcast-provided
>>Giganews account, though it did show "alt.binaries.test".
>>
>>MT-NewsWatcher, using the same account, showed it.
>>    
>>
>
>That's strange....anyway I just put it in alt.binaries.test as well.
>No word from pedro yes So I wonder if it was any help, it did get me out of
>trouble years ago on an 840av.
>
>  
>
 
Hi. I've been too busy to get back to this. I still haven't been able to 
install that hard drive, even tho I was able to get some third party 
progs. I will post more about it later when I try again with exactly 
what the error messages are, and hopefully someone will be able to shed 
some light on what the problem is.

I couldn't get your prog because when I access those binary ng's, all I 
see is garbage (See here- 
http://pedronet.worldispnetwork.com/pics/mac_ng.jpg) but if you email it 
to me (link on my home page) I will put it on a website so anyone can 
get it by just cliking.


-- 

rgds,

Pete
-----
http://pedro.spyw.com
The time here is- http://tinyurl.com/6sfgd
'Never eat prunes when you are famished!'