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Article #1604Byte Magazine flame from FIDOnet
From: Ralf.Brown
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1988 03:30
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1988 03:30
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From: Matthew Franckiewicz
To: All Msg #86, 21-Jun-88 02:38pm
Subject: Byte4
FLAME ON AGAIN
For the benefit of those of you who missed previous episodes of this soap
opera: In late 1987, I subscribed to Byte Magazine. I sent them a check for a
two year subscription. Although they cashed my check, they sent me a dunning
letter, and a "Notice of Cancellation". I responded to both with notes saying
that I had paid the bill. I have yet to be graced by a response to either of
my notes. When my bank statement arrived, indicating that my check was
cancelled before the subscription was, I called their customer service (ha!)
number. I related the situation, and requested a refund. The customer
service
(ha!) representative promised to send one. Nothing happened, and I telephoned
the customer service (ha!) number again on March 10. During an interminable
conversation with an alleged person, I stated, iterated and reiterated the
facts. Again I received a promise of a refund, supposedly to arrive in about
5 weeks. Subsequently, Byte began arriving. By this time, I did not want
the magazine, and regarded its arrival as an insult.
OK, now for the news. Of course, the promise of the customer service (ha!)
representative was, once again, not kept. I telephoned again on April 27, and
spoke with a different customer service (ha!) representative, in this case one
who was probably smarter than the average turnip. She told me that from what
she could see, nothing at all had happened regarding my refund. She said she
would initiate the process, but was not optimistic.
I thereupon wrote a letter to the president of McGraw Hill, on my legal
letterhead, setting forth the facts. He responded with a letter saying he was
directing someone to investigate, and that someone would contact me within one
week. This was one promise from McGraw-Hill which was almost kept. I
received a subsequent letter, dated 7 days after the previous letter, but
postmarked 10 days after the previous letter. This second letter did not
reach me until substantially later, however, perhaps because of the address
on the envelope, which I reproduce verbatim below:
Mr. Matthew M. Franckiewicz
Attorney at Law
902 Lincoln Highway
North Versailles, PA 15137
1000 East Main St.
Plainfield, Indiana 46168
(Are these guys the gang that can't shoot straight, or what?)
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From: Matthew Franckiewicz
To: All Msg #87, 21-Jun-88 02:39pm
Subject: Byte5
This second letter promised a refund, and said that I should receive it within
10 days. Imagine my lack of surprise when no refund arrived. After about 3
weeks had passed, I telephoned the sender of the second letter (yes, collect,
of course). I was told that he was not there. The following week he returned
my call, leaving a message on my answering machine. I called him again at
about 2:30 p.m. (same time zone) and was told he was out to lunch. (While
this may explain a lot about the nature of the problem, I strain to resist
the temptation to say something obvious.) I left another message, but he has
never replied to it, and I doubt he ever will.
Yesterday, June 13, merely a month and 3 days after the letter which promised
a refund within 10 days, a check arrived. The check was dated June 9. I
have not yet attempted to cash this check, and when I do take it to the bank,
I will do so with some trepidation.
In summary, it took me five telephone calls, two notes, a letter on my legal
stationery, about four hours of my time, and nearly six months, to induce Byte
Magazine and/or McGraw-Hill to provide restitution for their error.
If you are considering a subscription to Byte, you must ask yourself whether
you are willing to risk being subjected to the same treatment I received.
(And if you are not a lawyer, perhaps you may risk even worse treatment.)
Moreover, where an organization cannot accurately state what it is going to
do, can you believe its statements about what a piece of hardware of software
is going to do?
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