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Re: NeXT Memory - No Error Checking or Parity !

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From: James Van Artsdalen
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1988 04:32
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In <549@gt-eedsp.UUCP>, jensen@gt-eedsp.UUCP (P. Allen Jensen) wrote:

> The reason was that "memory is reliable enough that the added cost
> was not justified."  If you have ever worked on some older equipment
> without parity, your opinion may differ.  Could an expert on RAM
> chips respond ?   Is memory really "reliable enough" ?

I personally haven't found parity checking to be worthwhile.  I have
had three memory systems errors on machines that had parity checking,
and only one of those errors was a chip.  None of those systems
reported parity errors until well after I had discovered or deduced
the problem myself, and the Apple Lisa never reported an error.

A large number of machines in the PC market effectively don't have
parity checking.  Many clones use Phoenix's BIOS, which has this habit
of disabling NMI and hence parity error reporting.  Microsoft's symdeb
debugger also leaves NMI disabled.  Many video cards do bizarre things
to NMI too.

For those not aware: the Intel 80x88 family has a design flaw that
requires external hardware to disable NMI.  Without such hardware it
is not possible to prevent the system from randomly crashing when NMIs
are used.
-- 
James R. Van Artsdalen      james@bigtex.cactus.org      "Live Free or Die"
Home: 512-346-2444 Work: 338-8789       9505 Arboretum Blvd Austin TX 78759
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From: james@bigtex.cactus.org (James Van Artsdalen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT Memory - No Error Checking or Parity !
Keywords: Memory,errors,parity
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Date: 30 Oct 88 04:32:37 GMT
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Organization: Institute of Applied Cosmology, Austin TX
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