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Article #93

FROM the Moderator of c.s.n.a (very LONG)

#93
From: yrrid
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 05:06
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Dear Netland,

I guess it is time for me to jump in.  I have NOT posted
any c.s.n.a stuff since it is a heated debate and some
deserve to go and some don't.  I have been told what the
general gist of the ***.announce is about, and pricing was
NOT stated as being a no-no...  I did indeed put to a questionaire
about how you felt on the prices.  My personal feelings are
not important here, but there was only ONE person in 20 or
so reponses stating prices should NOT be included.  That
is only 5 percent.

Now let me state some simple facts and observations, not trying
to be biased and one sided.  The USENET is NOT supposed to be
used for commercial use, in general.  The group c.s.n.a is
supposed to be used to inform, and it would seem prices are
a very important part to many individuals in the information
aquisition process (as seen in the response I got 2 months ago).
X'in out prices does NOT decrease the noise of the net, and to
some it would seem it just increases the noise, because they
can't get a complete understanding of the product position.
Some feel it is a blaitant misuse of the Net to do price
included postings, and from a historical standpoint this is correct.
Many companies are using the Net, being charged for the connection
services (as are many individuals) of user groups.  Sites
can and have the option not to subscribe to certain groups,
as seen with the alt.sex.x.x branch of the Usenet News.

These are just my personal observations.  Again trying to
outline to many who are calling for me to change the focus
(Irving are you listening) of the c.s.n.announce group.
I have for many months considered a vote for guidance
and I think it is time.  I will put together a questionaire
for you to answer based to help shape the group
within the 'legal' boundaries I have been presented in the past
few months.  It is time to get out the electronic ballot
boxes to help make the c.s.n.announce group more of what
you want.  Please make sure you tell a neighbor about
this, and make sure you only respond once.  Put a receipt
on the filled out questionaire, so you will have proof of purchase ;').

The questionaire will be short and to the point (not like this
long letter of intent).  If there is anyone interested in helping
compose the questionaire (it will be non-biased, so all hot heads
on this issue can just sit back and wait) I would be very
interested in talking to you.  Please email me directly
at <todd@liveware.com> with your submission of help.  Please
put a subject of "CSNA Questionaire Volunteer Request" so I can
sort it out.  Otherwise I may overlook your request.

Well, that is all I have to say.  I thank Gordon of Metrosoft
for getting the ball rolling and Happy-Man for being so darn
pissed all the time.  If I can, I will try to get a group
of people together by the end of the week.  I hope this is
in time to get most of the NeXT community settled
down for a fun and uneventful weekend of programming ;').

Regards,

Todd Nathan
csna modman

PS.  If you have questions about this letter of intent
	or other points of interest, I would be happy
	to handle them directly.  If you must post
	public bashings of my letter, remember to include
	you full name, address and what you look like ;').

PPS.  The cross posting was done to make sure a broad base
	of net users get this letter of intent and know about
	how c.s.n.announce is dealing with the issue of price
	inclusion.
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From: yrrid@world.std.com
Subject: FROM the Moderator of c.s.n.a (very LONG)
Message-ID: <1992Aug18.050652.11227@liveware.com>
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Keywords: Modman hands tied a bit
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Organization: Liveware Corporation, Fort Collins, Colorado 80524
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 05:06:52 GMT
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