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rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour) writes:

>	The price is $4295 (with the 15" color display and ~250MB hard
>drive display) for any quantity other than a multiple of 12. So, if
>you buy 15, it 12 at $3995 and 3 at $4295. In addition, there will be
>no educational disounting.
No, not quite.  There are *some* educvational discounts, but they
aren't anywhere near the usual 30%-40% range.  Talk in the Sun
newsgroup indicated that the basic Sparc Classic would cost about
$3,400 (i.e. 15% off list) and about $3,800 with 400 MB disk.

Otherwise yes, you're right, SUn isn't shipping these babies yet.
Still, at <$4,000 the Sun seems to be a great buy even if you have to
wait for a month or two for delivery.

>I hope NeXT never sinks to this level of marketing.
Well, I thought NeXT did, repeatedly.  There have been *quite* a few
gripes in the NeXT newsgroups about long delivery times, not only for
the NeXT CD-ROM bundle, but for NeXT computers.  Also NeXT has offered
capabilities they've never delivered (NeXTdimension) so I don't think
NeXT is better or worse than anyone else.

>However, it is a low price for the amount of power you get (I've
>heard around 25 SPEC89s, as compared to the $8,000 Turbo Color's
>paltry 14.6 [and it doesn't have the awful problems with disk acess
>that the NeXT does {did you see UNIX Review's review of the Turbo
>Color?})
No, I didn't.  Please do tell.
And yes, $4K buys you quite a lot.  You certainly don't get all the
NeXT goodies (NeXTstep, devtools, bundled apps), but for all I know
most real-world *users* don't care much about how easy IB is.  

I hope NeXT will announce new hardware *soon*.  Sun has already
announced that they will switch to Display PostScript, and once they
do, the SparcClassic will become *very* attractive for DTP since it
will offer almost twice the power of a NSTC for half the price *and*
upgradeability.

Good thing I don't need all the latest and newest stuff because I'm
quite happy with my NeXT as it is.