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Article #1109Because ppl seem to like pricey stuff (was: Re: NeXTdimension -- Why so pricey?) (long)
From: J.B. Nicholson-Owens
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:03
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:03
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ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman) writes: >I've been lusting for a NeXTdimension ever since I got my NeXTcube >a year and a half ago. However, at ~$5,000 retail then and now, >it has stayed well beyond my financial reach. Beyond my financial reach as well, and my only justifiable answer I can come up with is: Because people are willing to pay that price and ultimately the amount the majority of buyers are willing to pay is what any product or service is worth. The way I see it is that the board: * has JPEG only in software. This is hardly good enough to do what was originally advertised (get many frames off a live video feed and save to disk [something like a software movie, I guess]). * has no close-captioning/titling capability (I've only heard about this being promised, I don't recall reading about this in the original or revised ad sheets NeXT sent). Until I hear hard evidence that this was officially promised with this board, I won't take any money off for it's absence. * comes not fully-stocked with memory nor with 0 MB ram configurations. * essentially can only function as a single-frame video grabbing device and 24 bit (plus 8 bits of alpha, which aren't really additional colors and can be achieved by programming so I don't count them as any bonus or extra) video board (of questionable quality if the frames of Steve Jobs in NeXTWORLD magazine are representative of it's output) * can drive 2 monitors in such a way that you can double the overall horizontal resolution. Therefore, the board is simply not as it was originally advertised. Because it is not as it was originally planned, I feel a dramatic reduction of price is long overdue. However, NeXT chooses to suck up more money and keep the price as it was when the JPEG hardware was planned. This is incredibly terrible. For a used ND board, I cannot justify paying more than $2,000 for a board just bought by someone else. I take off money for missing JPEG hardware, total time previously owned, and I take half off the best 'new' price right off the top (because it's used and I have no idea about the treatment it has received). Given the current list price of $5,000, I find $2,000 to be acceptable. NeXT has ignored color alternatives for b&w machine owners (other than buying color machines) and I think this is also a big mistake. They need to stop being so damn greedy about squeezing every nickel out of their customers on all their products and be truthful right from the start (that sly attempt at rewording their ads so they could avoid talking about the missing JPEG hardware was very bad PR to me). In summary, I would pay for a color upgrade for the b&w machines if it were done without tricks and if the price was low enough to be competitive with other platforms' boards offering the same functionality. I don't think the NeXTdimension is anywhere near that because it has no JPEG hardware. -- -- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu) -- NeXTmail ok
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!think.com!wupost!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!jeffo From: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Subject: Because ppl seem to like pricey stuff (was: Re: NeXTdimension -- Why so pricey?) (long) Message-ID: <BvBn9J.JBB@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Followups-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana References: <1992Sep28.231657.8482@socrates.umd.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:03:03 GMT Lines: 64