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Article #1112Re: Two kinds of keyboard? and Who makes the new Trinitron 17" monitor?
From: John Bartley
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:25
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:25
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In article <1a819hINNmr8@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu
(Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
>
> NeXT apparently now has two kinds of Starting Point Kits
(keyboard/mouse)
> 3.0A [N8504-4996] and 3.0 [N8504-5216]. What's the difference?
>
> NeXT also now has a 17" Color display which is Trinitron. Is this a
> SONY monitor or if not, who manufactures it for NeXT?
> Is it any better than the old Phillips 17" display?
From NeXT's new product announcement of September 1, 1992:
(reproduced without permission in the interest of making complete and
accurate information available to the NeXT community.) Any errors in
spelling are probably due to OCR translation process.
Sony Trinitron MegaPixel 17" Color Display
This color display has been added to the NeXT product line due to
customer demand for Sony Trinitron-based displays. The new display can
only be used with NeXTstation Color Turbo systems using the new ADB
keyboard and ADB compatible Sound Box 2.
Product Features/Benefits
- higher contrast
- flatter display
- better focus and convergence
- 72Hz for a rock solid image
- fully compliant with NPR-2 regulation for ELF and VLF emissions
- universal power supply
Product Limitations
- This new display is currently not recommended for use with the 25 Mhz
NeXTstation Color (16/105) or NeXTdimension. These systems are only
capable of supporting a 68Hz re-fresh rate which when connected to a 72
Hz monitor will result in a distorted and off-center image (1/4" off on
all edges with image shifted to the right.)
- This display and ADB keyboard are currently not compatible with some
emulation software, such as SoftPC (see below in Keyboard, Product
Limitations.)
Part No. N4006
List Price $2,295
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ADB Keyboard and Mouse
Background
The redesigned NeXT keyboard features several ergonomic and functional
improvements as well as having a new bus interface compatible with the
ADB (Apple Desktop Bus) standard. It is currently available for
NeXTstation Color Turbo and NeXTdimension systems only and ships in the
Starting Point Kit 3.OA.
Product Features/Benefits (keyboard)
- an ergonomically positioned command key below the space bar
- four-position keyboard tilt mechanism
- addition of Help keys
- newly styled and less obtrusive power, sound, and brightness
controls
- Unix command keys located on the main keypad
- connector port on both sides of the keyboard to allow mouse to be
used on either side
- allows use of ADB input devices (keyboards, track balls, mice, joy
sticks)
Product Features/Benefits (mouse)
- better ergonomics
- 30% lighter
- double the on-screen tracking resolution
Product Limitations
- ADB keyboard is incompatible with some third party
emulation software Some third party software, specifically
emulation packages such as X window emulators and SoftPC
are not fully compatible with the new NeXT keyboard. All
third party software applications that communicate
directly to the keyboard (like software emulators) will
have problems working with our new keyboard. NeXT's
advocate group is currently working with all affected
third parties to work out how fixes to this problem can be
implemented. SoftPC is working on a possible patch for the
short term and as an added feature in their upcoming
release of SoftPC 3.0 (targeted for Q4 '92). In general
all emulation software packages will need to be updated in
order to port to NeXTSTEP 486 to solve keyboard and other
compatibility issues when working with generic 486
hardware.
- Limited support for ADB peripherals
Although we have implemented an ADB keyboard interface,
initially we are not capable of supporting the wide range
of ADB peripherals available in the market. Currently,
there is not a comprehensive list of compatible
peripherals. We do know that ADB keyboards from Apple
Computer and various ADB trackballs are compatible.
However, if any software is required for an input device
to run on a Macintosh, it will probably not be compatible
on the NeXT system.
Availability: Now
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Sound Box 2 N4004A $125
An updated Sound Box with a re-designed audio board for
use with the NeXT ADB style keyboard compatible
systems-NeXTstation Color Turbo with either the 17" Sony
or 21' Hitachi, and NeXTDIMENSION system with the 21'
Hitachi.
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Starting Point Kit 3.0A
Part # N8504-4996 $225
Includes the new ADB keyboard and Release 3.0 documentation. For use
with ADB systems only - NeXTstation Color Turbo with either the 17"
Sony or 21" Hitachi, and the NeXTDIMENSION systems with the 21"
Hitachi.
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Q & A
Q: Why is NeXT introducing a newly designed keyboard and display?
A: This is the first step of an evolving product transition
at NeXT in our continuing effort to offer our customers
the highest quality products. NeXT's strategy is to I
provide a computer that can be used anywhere in the world.
This means all NeXT displays must be able to run at 72Hz
to meet international product standards. The Sony display
is the first to have this capability.
NeXT is also standardizing on ADB input devices, to allow
our customers access to a greater choice for input device
options (such as extended keyboards, or trackballs.)
Eventually all NeXT displays and keyboards will adhere to
these standards but in the meantime, we will offer our
customers a choice of configurations.
Q: Why is NeXTstation Color Turbo system the only computer shipping
with the new keyboard and mouse?
A: We wanted to start shipping the 72Hz Sony color display as
soon as possible in order alleviate growing customer
dissatisfaction with the Fimi display. And since the Sony
display was designed to work only with the ADB keyboard,
they needed to be introduced simultaneously.
Q: When will monochrome systems get the new style keyboard/mouse?
A: We are currently working on a 72Hz/ADB compatible MegaPixel
display for all monochrome systems with a first customer ship date
targeted for Q1 '93.
Q: Will the 25Mhz color systems be able to use the new
keyboard/mouse?
A: There are no plans to support ADB keyboards for non-Turbo color
systems until sometime next year.
Q: Will the 21" color display work with the ADB keyboard?
A: The 21' color display will work with either the ADB or the
standard keyboard, since it is capable of running at 68 or 72Hz.
Q: If I already have a NeXTcube and want to buy a NeXTdimension
upgrade, what monitor and keyboard should I buy?
A: We recommend: SPK 3.0, SoundBox and Megapixel Color Display (17"
Fimi or 21".)
Q: If I want to buy a new NeXTcube Turbo system and a NeXTdimension
board, what monitor and keyboard should I buy7
A: We recommend the SPK 3.OA, SoundBox 2, and 21" MegaPixel Color
Display.
Q: Can I upgrade my current machine to use the new style keyboard and
mouse7
A: Only new NeXTstation Color Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo systems can be
upgraded to use the ADB keyboard/mouse, and SoundBox 2.
- NeXTstation Color Turbo systems with serial numbers above
ABC-OOl 6000
- NeXTcube Turbo systems with serial numbers above ABA-6000
Q: What are the major differences between the old and new keyboards
and mice?
A: The functionality remains the same. The new keyboard and
mouse take advantage of ergonomic research that has been
conducted since the introduction of our first keyboard and
mouse. The new keyboard and mouse are an evolution in form
and function from our previous efforts.
Specifically the keyboard has an ergonomically positioned
command key below the space bar; four position keyboard
tilt mechanism; addition of help keys; newly styled and
less obtrusive power, sound and brightness controls; Unix
command keys located on the main keypad; mouse interface
on both sides of the keyboard.
The mouse has been redesigned featuring better ergonomics,
double the on-screen tracking resolution of the old mouse
and is 30% lighter.
Q: What features do I lose with the new keyboard and mouse?
A: Some third party emulation software (SoftPC, X emulators, etc.)
will not work until updates or re-writes are done.
Q: What ADB devices are supported by the new keyboard3
A: Although we have implemented an ADB keyboard interface,
initially we are not capable of supporting the wide range
of ADB peripherals available in the market. Currently,
there is not a comprehensive list of compatible
peripherals. We do know that ADB keyboards from Apple
Computer and various ADB trackballs are compatible.
However, if any software is required for an input device
to run on a Macintosh, it will probably not be compatible
on the NeXT system.
Q: Why is NeXT selling both the Sony and Fimi 17" color displays?
A: Some customers will be price sensitive, will want to
maintain "unbroken' compatibility with emulation software
packages or may just want similar products in their
installations. Because of these factors, we have decided
to retain the Fimi display for consistency as well as
offer new capability in the Sony Trinitron for those who
want it.
Q: Why do I care if the display is spec'd at 68Hz or 72Hz?
A: There are no noticeable differences. The change in refresh rates
has to do with meeting world wide standards for internationalization of
our products.
Q: Can I swap keyboards?
A: No. The new ADB keyboard will not plug into the old Sound Box. The
standard keyboard will not work with Sound Box 2.
Q: What happens if I plug a 17" Fimi color display into a NeXTstation
Co/or Turbo with an ADB keyboard 3
A: You will notice some changes in screen centering, loss of
display resolution and or a 'bowing" of the on-screen
image.
Q: What happens if I plug a 17" Sony color display into a NeXTstation
Color with a standard keyboard?
A: You will notice some changes in screen centering and a shrinking of
the display size (1/4' reduction on all edges and a shifting of the
image to the right).
Q: I don't like where the command bar is on the new keyboard, can I use
the old keyboard with my new color system ?
A: No, but if you prefer the conventional Command key
position, you can switch the functions of the Help key and
the Command bar in the Preferences application. This
option appears in the Keyboard Preferences panel only if
you have a new keyboard attached. The keys are switched
immediately.
Q: Why do the displays on my dual headed NeXTdimension system appear
to ripple?
A: You are seeing an interference pattern caused by the
difference in frequencies of the two displays (72Hz vs
68Hz). Increase the distance between displays and the
problem will go away.
Q: How come when I unplug my ADB keyboard and plug it back
in, the keyboard is not recognized?
A: This is a function of the ADB interface standard, removing
a keyboard while a system is running is not recommended.
You will need to re-start your system for it to recognize
the keyboard again.
Technical Details
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!nimno!john From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Re: Two kinds of keyboard? and Who makes the new Trinitron 17" monitor? Message-ID: <1992Sep29.042553.4122@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com Reply-To: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates References: <1a819hINNmr8@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:25:53 GMT Lines: 275