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Article #176Re: New RISC workstations (MIPS R4400)
From: Stephen E. Halpin
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1992 03:59
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1992 03:59
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In article <1992Nov2.154050.23454@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz) writes: ... valid stuff deleted ... >I'm actually quite worried about Nov. 10th. One of the machines Sun will >release is a Tsunami (sp?) based SPARC which delivers 28 SpecMarks for >less thatn $6k. Even though OpenWindows SUCKS, it's hard to justify >NeXT's 16 Specmark, no bus system for $8k. > >The new HP will offer even better MIPS/$. > >My impression of NeXT is that they aren't even close to releasing any >type of RISC machine. I believe that the vast majority of their efforts >have gone into NS486. It seems that NeXT is targeting the PC market >rather than take on the Workstation market. Granted, the line between >is rather blurred, but if NeXT is going to compete with Sun, SGI and HP >they better get a RISC box fast. ... more stuff deleted ... >Eric A note blew by here about the R4400, which clocks at 75MHz (150MHz internal), has a 32KB on chip cache, and is pin for pin compatable with the R4000PC/SC/MC chips, leaving a clear upgrade path if NeXT were to ship an R4000 system today. A dual R4000MC for under $10K would be quite a design feat, but it would get them on the RISC map with a clear, glowing future. Speed claims are based on simulation, and come out at SPECint89 of 95 and SPECfp89 of 126 for a single processor R4400 system. There is a short blurb about "design enhancements for graphics applications" in the announcement as well. The R4400s 113 SPECmark89 overall for a single CPU is quite respectable compared to Suns claim of 109 SPECmark89 for their dual processor SPARCstation 10, which had a (probably) outdated preannouncement price of $39,995 (2 CPUs, 64MB, 8-bit color, 1GB disk). NeXTstep on a 200 SPECmark dual CPU box for $10K. Its the stuff rumors (and sometimes dreams) are made of. Can Jobs and his crew be THAT good? -Steve -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stephen E. Halpin halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com "You might just have to waste your life just to live." - Soul Asylum
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!pa.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!vsg1.dsg.dec.com!halpin From: halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com (Stephen E. Halpin) Subject: Re: New RISC workstations (MIPS R4400) Message-ID: <1992Nov3.035949.23338@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Keywords: RISC Sender: usenet@nntpd.lkg.dec.com (USENET News System) Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation References: <1992Oct31.234604.21078@tamsun.tamu.edu> <1992Nov2.154050.23454@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 03:59:49 GMT Lines: 37