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Article #200Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
From: Lars Peter Fischer
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 04:05
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 04:05
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>>>>> "Don" == Don McGregor (mcgredo@prism.CS.ORST.EDU) Don> I don't know why they'd bother. There are going to be a zillion Don> low-margin clone makers making 586 boxes, so there won't be any Don> shortage of them. Yes, and they'll all be making PClowns -- no way to really use a P5 (or even a 386 for that matter). There's a heck of a difference between a P5/PClown and a real workstation built around a P5 chip. Real memory mapped video, no VGA nonsense, no crippled bus, no hardware fuck-ups, real memory architecture, real MMA, real SCSI-II and Ethernet in the motherboard, etc, etc. Look at the NeXT HW design (or a Sun or whatever). Compare to a PClown. Now, the major difference is *not* the CPU, it's support chips and architecture. There much more to designing a workstation than selecting a CPU, and PClown vendors can't do the things they should because they have to be compatible with a machine intended to use cassette port, 16 kbyte RAM, and ROM BASIC. Don> NeXT has a neat factory, but I don't think they'd want to get Don> into a price war with CloneTek Computers and Fishing Bait inc. They won't have to, no matter the chip (and no, I'm not sure a P5 is the best choice) Don> yeah, the NeXT version might be a little more integrated and work Don> out of the box, but the price differential is likely to be pretty Don> big. Maybe -- but it's *not* a matter of "a little more integrated". /Lars -- Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things. -- Calvin
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!pacbell.com!decwrl!sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!europa.asd.contel.com!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!sunic!dkuug!iesd!iesd.auc.dk!fischer From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer) Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise In-Reply-To: mcgredo@prism.CS.ORST.EDU's message of 3 Nov 92 18:54:22 GMT Message-ID: <FISCHER.92Nov4040530@steinhaus.iesd.auc.dk> Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News) Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University References: <1992Nov2.154050.23454@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> <1992Nov2.170741.2092@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> <1992Nov2.173628.5368@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> <1d6hsuINNi85@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Date: 4 Nov 92 04:05:30 Lines: 37