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2 total messages Started by Michael McCulloch Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:33
Re: NS 486: Begin the Quest
#1591
Author: Michael McCulloch
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:33
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In article <108572@bu.edu>, mek@acs.bu.edu (Mark Kern) wrote:
>
>	Well, how about the current Gateway Systems :
>
>		486DX2-66
>		256k cache
>		16 megs ram  (additional $320 or so)
>		2 340meg IDE local bus drives (additional $400)
>		ATI Ultra Pro (16 bit local bus color with 1meg VRAM)
>		17" Nanao (Invar shadow mask, dynamic beam focusing, $700)
>		both floppies
>		mouse, windows, etc.
>		------------------------
>		$4415 (beats the heck out of an 8/250 mono turbo for $4118)
>		$  95 shipping (natch)
>
>	This is a system I'm thinking about getting now, and I sure hope
>it will be able to run NeXTstep in the coming year.  Oh yeah, add $500 for
>NextStep 486.
>

Well, before you run out and buy a 486, I suggest you wait until NeXT
clarifies the HW issues. The release of a _detailed_ HW compatibility
guide is imminent according to NeXT. This should clear up confusion,
especially regarding the video cards and VRAM amounts needed for 16-bit
color.

Oh yeah, the developer's edition according to the last official info I've
seen is $2495 ($995 for runtime edition). We all hope NeXT is _just kidding_.
If they price it that high, then it's gonna be _very_ hard to convince my 
boss that we need (and can afford) NeXTSTEP.

NeXTSTEP 486 should be priced at $495 for the runtime edition, and $995 
($1495 absolute tops) for the developer's edition. Otherwise the market
_will_ opt for NT (or SCO if they want UNIX) without a second look at 
NeXTSTEP. You already have to have a loaded PC (memory, video, HD) to
run it -- charging 995/2495 would be suicide.

Michael McCulloch
Re: NS 486: Begin the Quest
#1597
Author: Nathan F. Janette
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:09
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In article <1993Jan28.153310.21428@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu  
(Michael McCulloch) writes:

> Oh yeah, the developer's edition according to the last official info I've
> seen is $2495 ($995 for runtime edition). We all hope NeXT is _just kidding_.
> If they price it that high, then it's gonna be _very_ hard to convince my 
> boss that we need (and can afford) NeXTSTEP.
> 
> NeXTSTEP 486 should be priced at $495 for the runtime edition, and $995 
> ($1495 absolute tops) for the developer's edition. Otherwise the market
> _will_ opt for NT (or SCO if they want UNIX) without a second look at 
> NeXTSTEP. You already have to have a loaded PC (memory, video, HD) to
> run it -- charging 995/2495 would be suicide.

Charging 995/2495 would hardly be suicide, it would be entirely in line
with the cost of competing unix systems for PCs.  However, one hopes that
NeXT will indeed lower the user version to $500 to attempt a cross-over
into the Windows NT and OS/2 market.  I doubt NeXT could go much lower than
that to try to grab Windows users, for example.  As for the developers
price, I don't have as much a problem with that costing more if it allows
the user price to be lower. 

Summary: we want NeXT for be *wildly*, not just incrementally, successful,
so let's hope a $500 user version price translates into mega sales.

--
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Dept MB&B	# Upon your cross I bleed the thoughts that I've been hiding.
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