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In article <1992Oct29.080824.29339@cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern) writes:
>In article <1992Oct27.210520.996@news.media.mit.edu> wave@waits.media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
>>Anwar Mohammed writes
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I do some volunteer work publishing newsletters.  I may also be
>>> designing some brochures soon. Using Framemaker for these 
>>> purposes is painful. I've used Pagemaker on Macs, to date.
>>> The latest NeXTWorld had good reviews of the various software 
>>> packages.
>>> 
>>> PasteUp sounds ideal, but their academic pricing scheme is priced 
>>> way out of my price range.  The combined academic pricing of 
>>> executor (which I'll be buying anyway) and either Pagemaker 
>>> or QuarkXpress is lower.
>>
>>Academic pricing?  What academic pricing?  I'm a big fan of buying software,  
>>and own real copies bought with my own money of Create, Frame, Microphone, 
>>Simon Says, Diagram!, Concurrence, Virtuoso, and a few other packages.  I was 
>>all set to plunk down some cash for PasteUp until I found out that they have NO  
>>academic pricing.  Come on guys, get real.  Better to sell a couple hundred (or
>>a couple thousand) academic copies at $100 to $200, than none at all.  As it
>>is I'll use Frame until Pages comes out...
>
>Pages != PasteUp
>
>Pages is a page-layout application for entities (companies or
>institutions) that need/want a consistant look throughout all their
>documents.  Rather than spending time teaching each person which
>styles to use where and hoping they use them right, one person creates
>a "Design Module" which defines what documents look like, and the
>software limits what the user can do according to the design module.
>It's really killer stuff, but it's not the same as PasteUp (which is
>free-form down and dirty page-layout).  Both are great pieces of
>software, but neither is a replacement for the other.  I think Pages
>(Pages plus the Designer Edition) will be more expensive than PasteUp
>too.
>
>Also, Archetype is a long ways away from release (I talked to someone
>from Archetype last Wednesday who said it would be about a year) since
>they are trying to create something a bit more obtuse than PasteUp.
>
>In any event, if you want at discount on PasteUp, call NeXTconnection.
>Deep discounts for students is not a right.  Many companies just can't
>afford it.  PasteUp is a really neat app, but it's a page-layout app.
>While PasteUp is easier to use than any other page-layout app I've
>seen on Macintosh that has similar capabilities, it's still a
>page-layout app.  Support is really expensive for page-layout apps.
>Just go down to your local bookstore and count the number of PageMaker
>books.
>
>So put yourself in the software company's shoes (in this case a rather
>small one) before you scream to the net.

No one is screaming here.  I stated a fact: I cannot afford PasteUps 
pricing and am looking for alternatives.  Michael thinks RightBrain's
Academic pricing scheme is unrealistc and presents a reasonable reason
for having lower pricing.  I've followed suit in a subsequent posting.

Contrary to the academe-bashing we see here every once in a while, 
we do *not* see academic pricing as a right.  We merely choose to 
take advantage of it whever it is presented to us as an option.

It my post was seen as an attack on RightBrain, I assure you it wasn't.

>
>
>andrew
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