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Article #1346Economy
From: Michael Gersten
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:50
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:50
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In article <1992Mar20.110353.16614@yang.earlham.edu> andrewh@yang.earlham.edu writes: >No. Consumers can only choose from available goods and services. If >someone wants to buy a car, refrigerator, or television that will last >twenty to thirty years, they're out of luck. Companies don't sell things >that last, because if they did, everyone's needs would be filled for the >long-term, and production would be unnecessary. > ... >No one really knows what the "best" system is. The point is we all better >stop our ideological idololatry and foolish demagogery before too long, or >we'll have a real disaster on our hands, environmental or otherwise. > >Andrew Hagen >andrewh@yang.earlham.edu Actually, we do know what the best system is. It is defined by the following: 1. Free entry and exit into/from markets 2. No hidden costs 3. Commodity goods -- No brand names, all sizes standardized/exchangable 4. Free information 5. No one has so much of an item for sale that they can cause a major effect on the market by themself. At least, those are the textbook definitions. You also need 6. Market based buying/selling (obvious) 7. Rational consumers (not so obvious). Then, you get the best for SOCIETY. This is very different than the best for the individual members of society. Whats the difference? Compare two plans. Under 1, A makes $50. Under 2, A loses $50, but B gains $200. Since under 2, B could pay A $100, and still be $100 ahead, 2 is a better plan for society. Except that A will not be paid the compensation, and will hate the result. So who said that a free market was the best possible solution? A better question: Just what is the question that all the various economies are trying to solve? (This is not a trivial question). This should be directed to an economy group (sci.economics?), but we don't get them here. Michael -- Michael Gersten michael@stb.info.com HELLO! I'm a signature virus! Join in the fun and copy me into yours! ex:.-1,. w $HOME/.signature
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!think.com!ames!dlb!zygot!denwa!stb!michael From: michael@stb.info.com (Michael Gersten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,talk.politics.misc Subject: Economy Message-ID: <1992Apr10.225013.9413@stb.info.com> Date: 10 Apr 92 22:50:13 GMT References: <1992Mar10.023907.10539@Princeton.EDU> <1992Mar10.172520.27836@watdragon.waterloo.edu> <1992Mar20.110353.16614@yang.earlham.edu> Organization: STB BBS, La, Ca, 310 397 3137 Lines: 49